update did one of those “near 1 minute reloads”… same reward… the only damage i really did was to ai, and at close range cause “what is aiming” for american bb’s
I can understand Gaijin wanting rules and all about progression, but for fucks sake, there needs to be some parity. Nations shouldn’t be shafted just because they were able to develop a fully fledged navy.
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Overmonetization is one of the factors that killed naval.
Gaijin, you can’t squeeze players this much when the br compression makes entire br ranges xp pinatas due to some OP premium ships. Try 5.0/5.3 when there is a 6.0 premium .
Unbalanced, overcompressed mess with p2w/p2progress premiums. Same mistakes that killed heli PVE btw.
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Naval progression is extremely slow
Not only do you get much less RP per match but matches also take much longer than ground or air matches
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So basically, if you unlock all the ships and go up to the top of the line, you’ll end up wasting RP and throwing away the bonuses.
The RP requirements are also just obscenely high and nonsensical
380k RP for a ship that’ll be 2 whole BRs below the new top tier which relative to the size of the tech trees would be like the T55 having the same RP requirement as the T90M, and every single vehicle inbetween also having that same requirement
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Well, after this weekend, I have been reminded why I don’t play naval, even though I love naval-style warfare. After 2 hours in an EC mission, I earned 12,000 RP towards the 3.4 million I need before I can even contemplate starting to unlock the Iowa.
If this were ground or air, I could earn 20k in 15 minutes and possibly unlock a rank 5 or 6 vehicle in those same 2 hours.
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The hilarious part is this is after the match rewards got an increase from ai ships giving full rewards; its still super low compared to other vehicle types
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Naval is by far the worst offender but I feel the other trees are also a bit excessive (especially as an arcade player as you can only use 3 naval/ground vehicles in a game).
Never understood why air has you research 6 aircraft when in ARB you can only use one.
Gaijin should change the HMS Renown IJN Haruna and IJN Krishima from V to VI ,they are 7.0 RB, but Tier V
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I fully agree with you. Even when I researched the Scharnhorst back in 2023 I had to grind 2 months non-stop. I was still in school and had hollidays, but I texted with an australian man who was an adult, father and worked full time. He said that unlocking Scharnhorst cost him nearly one year. And that was back then. Now it’s even worse. If you can’t play every day for multiple hours, reachink rank VII in naval takes months if not even years and that should not be the goal of Gaijin, even if one of the goals is to promote premiums with it
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200 votes, excellent!
Hopefully we will get the developers to acknowledge this situation and consider changes.
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They really need to rework the RP costs as well, now a solid third of the entire naval tech tree will be in the 200k to 400k RP cost bracket, zero point in anyone new actually getting into naval considering how long it would take relative to the actual number of vehicles you are getting
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@SPANISH_AVENGER , thank you for raising this point. Gaijin should lower the RP requirements for top tier ships for this patch (not later on, which I suspect is their current plan). I reckon this is probably the best chance for naval to get re-invigorated. If players see that they will need an insane grind to unlock the big new ships now, then player retention will be poor.
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I play Bluewater Fleet with the USA, GBR, GER, IJN, and ITA, and the British line is the only one I’ve managed to unlock all the ships for. In my opinion, if they kept the requirement of just following one line in rank 6, it would be perfect—because not only would I unlock the top tier, but I could also use the RP from matches, along with the bonus, to research the other lines.
Why not actually play the ships of the lower ranks and enjoy the game? The constant need to get the latest top tier vehicle isn’t fun.
This isn’t about grinding or getting top tier vehicles; it’s about playing with the vehicles we are interested on.
I happen to be interested in Iowa, Bismarck and Yamato, and no so much on the vehicles found at lower tiers, like Destroyers.
Maybe you find lower tiers with smaller and lighter vessels fun; but what I find fun is the largest and most powerful warships.
Same for ground. People tell me to “just have fun in low tier instead of grinding Top Tier all the time”, but… I just happen to have fun in Top Tier, because those are the vehicles I’m interested in and find enjoyable the most.
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Yeah personally the only reason i don’t play naval anymore is that the grind for any of the famous BBs is excessive. I’ve been stuck and dreadnought for years now
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grinding BBs are not to painful in my opinion . The worst is coastal fleet
Then will great to see Richelieu with 2milions RP to grind.
Naval RP grind is so stupidly slow.
Only way to get RP at a remotely acceptable rate is Naval EC which is only avalible on the weekends