Could you link the video pls or put it in the main post so everyone can see it
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Python 4 values and data in the game files:
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From now it’s a 50G missile with a lot of speed and range.
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Hopefully they add it this update, but they already gave the Barak II 9Ms so who knows
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Tested them on current dev, these missile should def not be added with similar counters for other Nations O_o
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Do you have a link to the user mission?
Here is the link to the user mission:
Instal it on the dev server. not in the live server files, for Python-4s on you have to open the flightModel file from the content folder of the mission: gameData → flightModels → su_57a BLK → open it, scroll down and change all four "blk:t=“gameData/Weapons/rocketGuns/su_r_73.blk” " to → "blk:t=“gameData/Weapons/rocketGuns/il_pyton_4.blk” "
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Thank you! Uploaded the modded one to WTLive for anyone to test, appreciate the help!
https://live.warthunder.com/post/1083554/en/
can you please provide a source that says that P5’s have thrust vectoring?
cuz the source you listed: Python 5 says:
Both missiles rely on aero dynamics rather than on vector steering - a technology which suffers from several problems such as relying on the rocket’s fuel that can run out and leave the missile ineffective. The Python 5 missile’s aero dynamical configuration contributes a lot to its performance even when its rocket stops working. Moreover, using the same configuration saves millions of dollars in the R&D process.
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The Python 5 doesn’t have thrust vectoring, it uses it’s 18 control surfaces to pull around 50G single plane or 70G dual plane.
The missile should be able to roll on itself to use the dual plane maneuvrability all the time.
It’s uses almost the same aerodynamics and motor than the Python 4.
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Apologies, I was under the assumption it does use vectoring. I had another source that said it did but couldn’t verify it.
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thanks for clearing this up. thank you o7
its not 18 control surfaces its 18 aerodynamic control surfaces, control surfaces are 6 total with 4 as the wings and 2 behind the canards/wings that control roll
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well 9M implemented, Magic-2 with IRCCM implemented, AAM-3 implemented (comtemporaneus with the Python-4) it sounds like that the next advance IR missile to come in the next major update in march is the Python-4. i hope it gets added in march it would be really cool to see it in game!
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The Magic 2 still need:
- a better IRCCM (smaller IFOV aswell as the same type of flare rejection the 9M has).
- 50G (aka dual plane maneuvrabilty)
- Turn quicker off the rail
- Lower minimum range (aka warhead activationg from 1.8s to 1.2s).
The AAM-3 still need a wider gimbal (around 70° iirc) and they need to implement dual-band IRCCM in the game instead of transforming this kind of IRCCM into the flare rejection the 9M has.
The Python 4 will still be better than both of them with superior maneuvrability (50-70G) and better kinematics. It’s IRCCM also has to be reworked
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Recent footage of what I assume is a Python-5 being used on a drone
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Some around 2002 data about Pythons from Janes
Shafrir 2:
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Python 3:
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Python 4:
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Derby:
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Not so recent but still (most likely) Python 5 launch from Israeli Baz against UAV
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With nerfed irccm it wiil be balanced
R73 is still better in tight df
Thats some insane acceleration and pull
Now see how gaijin makes the p5 pull even less
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