Radar guided vikhrs? As those fired in these two videos? The literal point I made on the thread was on the radar guided Vikhrs, not any Vikhr.
A point on how Gaijin half baked a very interesting mechanic and forgot it in shambles, denying the Kinzhal-S and modeling a very odd flight path for the radar guided vikhrs.
Mmw guided atgm nissles have been denied by gajin. There will only have laser or laser beam riding modes
You could say that these videos have cmW guided ATGMs, as the Kopyo-25 operates on the centimeter band, but still I would insist on buffing the radar guidance on the Vikhrs and the addition of the Kinzhal-S 8mm band-wave.
But that quote weren’t on things like the Kh-31A?
Vikhers and work on laser beam riding. They arent truely radar guided in the game but still laser beam riding. They still only travel in the cone of the laser beam. Thats why they arent accurate.
The quote was for brimstones. But its the same principal gajin wont buff mmw guidance for vikers they have the same problem of not being counterable like brimstones
And i looked at the video, they arent realy guided, you are shooting them with the laser beam and then they continue flying in the general direction but arent realy guided anymore thats why they deviate. they loose the lock
On the first video, the TGP wasn’t slaved by the radar in the test, so “no laser” and they still hit two ships. On the same first video, the second custom match, I guided three missiles at the same time, and the Vikhrs followed the radars locks, not the target I was lasering; not getting a hit with the second Vikhr was a issue of the accuracy, which I did mention on the thread because of how botched the flight path for radar guided vikhrs are.
You can see if the TGP is enslaved by by the radar if you see the marker following the radar tracks, which weren’t the case for any these videos I made, unless the custom match, where the TGP was locked on the third target I killed using the Kh-25ML.
Note: all those targets are moving, so the principle of the “general direction” isn’t valid because they change their trajectory.
What were you saying?
Lol the vikhr on the ship even pulled some G’s just to chase the radar track
And on the second demonstration, the vikhr I was guiding with the laser lost track when a hit the maximum of two datalinks for the Kopyo-25
no idea about gajins shenanigans, but u got any sources its supposed to do that?
and even then we can bug report it to remove it, since gajin said they dont want mmw guided atgms since they are smoke immune
The info on this is obscure as on the Kinzhal’s. Considering I haven’t had luck in finding anything about how the vikhrs were to be guided by the radar, but here on the forum Ralin mentioned it, I recall well, – briefly – on the thread of the Khod/Kinzhal container, and I guess Gaijin know even more things about the Su-39, even more than just the Khod or the datamined container I mentioned on this thread.
They said this about any radar guidance or just about ARH mmW seekers like on that AGM-114L(is this the name of it, right?) or the Brimstone that works at 3mm wave-band, because it would imply they not fixing the lacking radar guidance the Khrizantema-S have with its missiles, as it have a mmW radar too.
And this radar guidance on the Vikhr isn’t mmW, because – as I mentioned before – the Kopyo-25 operates on the 3cm band-wave, not on the mmW. So it would not make sense to remove it if it isn’t as powerfull as the ARH seeker on the brimstone or on the hellfire; plus the fact that it isn’t even FnF. You have to be exposed to fire and guide these vikhrs with the Kopyo-25.
The radar guidance on the Vikhr is kinda of a SARH+DL with its own parameters
brimstone could never
Could never what?
could never do that thing in the Video in wt(because gaijin only implemented it with SAL mode)
And the Vikhr can’t do half of the things a dual seeker brimstone would do, which was the version Gaijin didn’t want to add.
What you think the radar guidance on the vikhr is capable of? Almost nothing because of how botched it is right now in the game.
yeah cause it aint supposed to be added
What isn’t supposed to be added are A-G missiles with an ARH seeker, or you think, making analogies, that a SARH A-A missile is powerful as a ARH A-A missile? Because the Vikhr is like a SARH guided missile; it is powerful as a ARH missile?
You are meaning the decision of Gaijin towards things like the Kh-31A, the ARH seeker on the brimstone or on the AGM-114L, but these weapons are way more powerful than the Vikhr would ever be, even if these changes I proposed – The addition of the Kinzhal-S 8mm band-wave radar and the correction of the Vikhr radar guidance flight path – were to be done.
Gaijin never mentioned the Su-39 and the radar guided Vikhr, as they probably have forgot. They probably also forgot the Khrizantema-S also have radar guidance for it’s missile, though it isn’t working right now.
The Vikhr is an beamriding guidance missile it has no other tracking capabilities. If it is showing other tracking capabilities then it is a bug and will have to be corrected.
It’s not that hard to understand.
You would say the same to the Khrizantema missile? Because some time ago it could guide its missile with the radar, now it isn’t working anymore.
khrizantema either way is sth completly different either way since it is ground launched
The Khrizantema’s missiles can beam ride the radar waves of the mmW radar it has. I don’t have a reason to believe why this would not be possible with the Su-39, specially considering the existence of the Kinzhal-S 8mm wave-band radar.