The radar guidance on the Vikhr needs a buff, and the Kinzhal-S should be added to the Su-39

The Vikhr is an beamriding guidance missile it has no other tracking capabilities. If it is showing other tracking capabilities then it is a bug and will have to be corrected.

It’s not that hard to understand.

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You would say the same to the Khrizantema missile? Because some time ago it could guide its missile with the radar, now it isn’t working anymore.

khrizantema either way is sth completly different either way since it is ground launched

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The Khrizantema’s missiles can beam ride the radar waves of the mmW radar it has. I don’t have a reason to believe why this would not be possible with the Su-39, specially considering the existence of the Kinzhal-S 8mm wave-band radar.

again balance you dont seem to understand basic mechanics of the game

@Ralin can you give some insight in this? The Kinzhal-S would been able of guiding Vikhrs?

And again you use names and don’t explain them. How a almost SARH vikhr which don’t have FnF capabilities would be powerful as A-G missiles with a ARH seeker like the brimstone.

I’m asking you to explain “how so”, not to keep repeating the same thing.

what about the immunity to smokes dont you want to understand?

its like u arent even listening what the basic problem is
gajin literaly said they dont want that feature

Those are 2 different missiles and have no correlation.

So immunity to smoke is the main problem? Seems like your not explaining well enough how alone the “smoke dodging” make it a game breaking weapon as you still will need to be exposed to to any AA, pointing the nose of the Su-39 to the target.

Gaijin said they don’t want missiles with a damned ARH seeker, which is what the dual mode brimstone is, and I can’t see how the radar guidance on the Vikhr use a ARH seeker to be included in this list.
Kopyo-25 is not even a mmW radar, it works on the I-band in-game, which equals 3 centimeter band-wave.

u arent getting in your head that that is not my opinion but that of gajin? its literaly one of the main reasons brimstones were denied because you cant defend against them

they said they dont want missles that ignore smokes as well jesus

You said that Gaijin don’t want missiles with ARH seeker. Whenever you talk about them, you refered to them as “mmW guided ATGM”

Then you mentioned that Gajin declared they won’t add those missiles quoting the brimstones “case”:

So Gaijin was specifically talking about missiles with a ARH seeker, which would be FnF, more accurate than IR counterpats and ignore smoke. The emphasis on “ignoring smoke” is yours, not theirs.

So again: how can a radar guided Vikhr, which don’t have a ARH seeker, have the same power as a brimstone?

it is their repsonse.

u are aware even if they are SARH guided it would still be mmw guided or cwm in this case right? the missle gets guided trough that system doesnt matter if its trough the missle itself or trough guidance of the plane

because u can fire multiple at once they automaticaly track and ignore smoke that your brain doesnt get that in your head

and first and foremost, you whole logic is nonsense and you are wrong until you bring prove vikhers has the ability to be guided trough radar in the first place and this isnt a bug

Link?

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8079-qa-answers-from-the-developers-en

Atakas are the radar guided missile iirc.

if the vickers get “guided” trough the radar they are radar guided in this case as well

Well that’s the issue isn’t it? They are laser beam riding missiles.

ataka are saclos guided