The R-77 'ADDER' - History, Design, Performance & Discussion

Which part of it do you want?

Were there not videos of in-flight launches showing R-77s lofting?

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Nope. You are basing it on a fallacy. If it is not written, it is in fact likely not there. If your type of argumentation were correct then I could just go to the bug report site and say F4E phantom has a doppler mode. It is not on the manual but they can’t prove it’s not as it is not written on the manual that it is not a doppler radar. See how flawed your logic is? Go ahead and tell them that the R27R/ER lofts, it is not written on the manual therefore it must loft am I right?

Those are R77-1s which do infact loft.

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There is no logic in your messages. It is not written in the books whether there is a loft or not. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Here, you want more ?

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Damn you really are stubborn and try to justify anything with any nonsense.

You are telling me that the can R27 loft? Juat because it doesn’t say it doesn’t on the manual?

I can go ahead and say that the Su 27s radar can only lock a target qhen the plane is pulling less than 5Gs. You cannot prove me wrong. On the manual it doesn’t state this.

He does not even know where, when and what Regiment got R-77-1 deployed and does not even know what is different between 77-1 and normal 77

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Hoe do you not know it is not the R77-1? You can say aim 120 but which one?

Unlike you, the clown, I have at least some kind of source.


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And where does it even say it lofts? Its justa brochure with description. Whats the point in posting just stuff that doesn’t even address the lofting issue. No where I read anything about missing lofting or atleast a description of it climbing to increase the effective range.

I can ago ahead and post a piece of a magazine if you want…Get real

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Are you unable to read?

Unlike his, yours would have nothing to do with the topic.

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Yeah, i got it from the “mouth” of the company that “sell it”

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Yeah. The basic aim 7M also has a “special trajectory” through trajectory shaping to increase the energy of the missile at longer range to increase the effectiveness. Yet, it does not loft. Only the MH variants lofts in the classical sense of a huge 30° loft.

Do you have any proof that there is no loft?

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Ypu can manually loft any sparrow. F having improved guidance laws and M trajectory shaping and MH same as M + lofting


The difference is that the MH will actually loft for a set amount of time. If you “loft” the Aim 7F/M sparrows at 15°, they’ll climb at 15°. If you launch an MH sparrow at 15°, the MH as it actually has lofting guidance, it will correct itself and climb at 30° regardless of the angle.

Just because they have special guidance laws to increase range doesn’t not imply a straight up loft. A chart was posted with the aerodynamic ranges and the maximum relative range( max relative distance where the missile is farthest from the launching fighter) were shown. The sparrow F figures shown and M sparrow hidden values hidden. Why would they be hidden if they (F/M) have the same motor? Because the special trajectory increases energy thus range. And because some nations still have M sparrow sin their inventories.

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Once again, do you have a source that the R-77 does not have a loft?

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Moot point, there simply isn’t as it doesn’t exist. Same way you can’t prove the R27 does not loft because the manual doesn’t state anything regarding it. There isn’t one where lofting exists. Special trajectory ≠ loft. You are under the fallacy that conclusion is true because you cant prove it wrong. Can you prove God(abrahamic) or Ra (the egyptian sun goRa )doesn’t exist? To show that something exists, it must be proven. You cannot just say an assumption is true just because yes.

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Well, then there is no source. Ie, you can solve both in one direction and in the other as the developer deems.And the developer thought so. Which means your demands are out of place here. Just like you can’t prove that a special trajectory is not a loft

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