The new Abrams is too OP

Just highly disappointing when it comes to the SEPv3s.

Holy cope.

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Actual volumetric armor it should have had for years → “lore accurate” lol
And its not even “lore accurate” because that would be them equipped with M829A4s which are purpose made against Relikt, not just K5 like the A3s.

i mean, you are just spinning a narrative. The reason why russia is and has been broken is CAS and SPAA. The tanks are ok, less meta than Abrams or Leopards but given that they arent negative KD/KS on global they are ok.

cry me a river

hopefully further nerfs to russian CAS.

lol no it isnt. You can still get oneshot in an abrams when hull down pretty easily, you can still die to your ammo exploding especially if youre bringing MPAT or HEOR, you can be heavily disabled by a bad shot because the basket is a thing. And these tanks are at 12.7 and not 10.3 on release. Genuine cope.

you have one of the best engines ingame on a flanker, its able to actually keep up with everything, maybe apart from typhoon, but even then you have HOBS ARH and IR missiles to compensate in most cases, and you have a lot of them even in a full CAS loadout.

6 of the hands down best missiles in the entire game alongside up to 6 of the best medium range ARHs ingame. Not even counting the Kh31PDs which are currently THE best ARMs ingame.

more weapons with worse stats facing against a nation with THE BEST SPAA in the entire game.

no it does not

no it does not, the F15E has up to 20 GBU53s and 6 mavericks. Sounds like a lot but 53s are glide bombs meaning slow and easily intercepted and mavericks are subsonic (aka slow as hell) past 3km.


btw the time to impact on Kh38MT from 11km distance and 1km altitude was 21.2 seconds, Maverick was 40.4 seconds, that means that from the 11km distance 8 were subsonic and so easily intercept-able.
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The fact that you do not understand this is evidence enough.

maybe… you should not make up stuff then.

16 glide bombs vs 1 SM SV, hell even a regular S1 pantsir dont mean much unless the map is good for CAS (mountainous) or someone is dropping them from above the SM SVs head and the player in SM SV is too stupid to look up.

lmao but they arent lol.
Regular S1 has radar ceiling of 85 degrees, it can see a person flying upwards for majority of the flight. It can also elevate its gun up to 85 degrees so when that happens its because people are incompetent, not because the air defense system cant deal with it.
SM SV is even more busted as it has 90 degree radar ceiling AND it has access to smoke grenades. You can literally deal with people trying to corb it (or james strat it) in a pantsir without too many issues.
Immune to pantsirs, what an absolute joke.

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God forbid anyone other then Russia gets something nice lol

Pretending like the Abrams hasn’t been really good for years now? Or that the 2A7s/122s haven’t been the best MBTs at top tier for just as long lol?

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A good tool here would be taking all of the KDs for tanks during their first month or two after release, and then determine the percent decrease/increasein KD over their life time.

You could then take that nunber and then see which ones were boosted the most by good players, and would provide a realistic take on which ones performed the actual best.

This means folks cant just bash the over all life time stats. It shows which ones remained consistent - suffered less from top player migration, and could potentially better indicate which vehicles remained consistent/powerful and was less impacted by player skill changes.

Hopefully that makes sense, sometimes the spectrum makes me think things are brilliant and they make zero sense to anyone else.

An actually good take for once on the forums? Impossible. But yeah I 100% agree. People get so laser focused on lifetime stats that they fail to factor in what changes happened to that vehicle in its lifetime. I guess everyone has a short memory?

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M1A2T KPS is sitting at 1.29 vs 1.11 for the american M1A2 (monthly not overall stats)

0.18 KPS difference is actually almost half a standard deviation for KPS (0.398 for the same period). Half a standard deviation is a pretty significant skill difference ie statistically us mains still got the skill issues lol

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Balanced fr

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you forgot missile elevation

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USA has had better MBTs than “Russia” for over 7 years [if not the entire history of War Thunder].

T-64B vs M1
T-80B vs M1IP
T-80U vs M1A1
T-80U vs M1A2 (lol)

fast forward… T-80BVM vs the SEP’s…

T-90M Arena vs M1A2 SEPv3

  • I feel compelled to mention here that the BVM is still Russia’s best MBT and has been for years while still being worse than NATO MBT’s, while the T-90M’s are abysmal and T-72B3’s might as well not even get mentioned, all while NATO has been getting more and more tanks.
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T64a vs kpz70. They love to claim russia is given 30+ years newer tech but they always ignore this games update history

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i kinda forgot to reply cause i went on vacation sorry uh yeah i agree with you its good tank though if it had trophy it would be perfect

the abrams with its new round and boosted armor is actually worth grinding now its not just a copy paste

its a great change

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Didn’t mention that one but yeah, arguably even harder bent towards the MBT/KPz than it is in current day with it having the old inaccurate M735 based XM578E1 penetration that was much higher

That and 64’s had the 7s reload back then.

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Lowkey a lot of old veterans r flooding to usa cuz of this to the data is a bit inflated

I think its just skill issue from T80 and T90 players trying to hold W to win

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I mean there is not much else they can do. The capability gap between the T-80s/T-90s is so hilariously big at the moment.

They sit back? Get roflstomped by the Abrams.
They Rush? Get roflstomped by the Abrams.

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You know a tank is limited if it’s best playstyle comes down to W hold rushes.

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