It just so happens that is not true and people who play multiple nations know this.
So seeing someone complain about it while not playing Russia is
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This is the part that confused me the most, these NATO mains would get on the forum and validate each other’s poor performance, like what they trying to achieve when they collectively pull down anyone who tries to improve by feeding each other nonsense/skill issue opinions, ensuring everyone stays at the same low level lol looking how they agreeing with other sub 1kd scrubs is beyond funny. Like what should we call this group? Loser Club with a goal to artificially boost each other’s egos instead of improving? LOL
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I play russia, not just at top tier, taking my sweet time to grind
If we go by the amount of people that complain about T-55As and T-62s while playing russia, when they are in fact the most average joe tank you can play, and not annoying to face like their successors, I have my little idea on what awaits after my grind ends…
Do we reeaaally want to go in the statistics territorry already ?
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You’ll likely wish you’d be in your NATO tanks instead lol.
If I were to be asked to play either the Leclerc in it’s current state or the T-90M, I would pick my Leclerc every single time without even a second of hestitation.
Hell I even prefer playing my 11.7 premium Ariete at 12.7 over the T-90M.
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Why would you even wanna go there in the first place when the highest you’ve ever played is the t-55/t-62? Coming from usual NATO mains I already can predict what comes next. How many matches played on the said vehicle doesn’t matter too, if someone played the 2A7 for 10,000 matches and still struggle to break 1kd then he really has nothing to set on the table, like what advice do you think someone could offer when he never excel in anything? even the topic is new Abrams dated July 11 2026, whose this new Abrams? definitely not the 10.7, not the IPM1, not M1A1, not the SEP either. Oh, its the SEP v3 and one with APS I think, so maybe when you get your ru in that territory, then perform as good or better than your NATO counterparts then only make claims like something is overperforming or not lol you can have all that vibranium UFP but if something else kept getting you killed then where is that overpowered/overperforming claims comes from?
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Are you really trying to argue that x6 Kh-38 are better for CAS compared to x16 SPICE-250 just because of the difference in speed ? You infact are which proves you have literally no clue !
SPICE armed platforms can literally wipe the entire map … good luck doing that with Kh-38 :
Spice can be easily shot down, also spice carrier planes. Its all about SPAA y/n. Kh-38 punch through. I always try to shot them with my Iris-T, but mostly interceptions fail. Due to their high speed and server tick rate. SAMs usually overshoot and explode behind them. KH-38 are also launched from far away. So the carrier plane remains mostly safe.
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quite difficult to read not gonna lie, could use paragraphs
I perform similar in my t-62 and Leclercs (more or less)
T-62 is one of the example i’ve seen a few RU mains put as example for the “russia suffers” argument
Regarding t-80 and 90s we will see… Note that i never said they were overperforming (they have been in the past), just that they can sometimes eat shots in an annoying way, just like the abrams did in the video above.
That can happen yes… but quite irrelevant to the conversation at hand
Quite honestly…
what ?
This piece of your argumentation leads to nowhere, is something lost in translation or… ?
Did i deny abrams being strong currently anywhere ? I was just pointing out the irony
Lost in translation again, assuming you are talking of t-80s /90s, mainly from the absence of turret basket and the spall being eaten by same turret basket
Note : i make a difference between “handheld” and “overperforming”
T-80s and 90s are not overperforming currently, they have cons as you said. They are however handheld, since they have a few modelling choices (lack of spall, no turret basket) favoring them in game.
Of course its relevant bro, claiming t series overperforming usually comes from uninformed individuals such as someone who hadn’t played them or those sub-1kd/negative scrubs, if you had played them you would know the pros of armor isn’t enough to offset all the cons, especially at a br where you run your Leclercs, try playing the t-90m or bvm and see if you can afford to take a freeshot, for the most part you rather not taking it after playing it for a while lol
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Imagine if any russian cas ever had over 8 (total) F&F weapons
Is this gaslighting? I’m confused.
I dropped 8 spices last night, 2 hit (no kill) 6 went missing lmao
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Absolutely criminal that the enemy russian team let that happen lol.
I was simply arguing the differences between the two loadouts because you can’t just go “hurr durr hurr numba bigga”, you have eto focus on what’s different and how it affects the vehicles
So, let me see,
SPICE 250 have mach release limit, attitude limit and are slow
Kh-38 goes what? Mach 2.1, has no attitude or speed limits (that you can reach realistically)
SPICE is much easier to intercept while being harder to launch safely.
The top-down James strat is fun, but it’s insanely situational because as soon as something like a pantsir gets elevation by running up a hill or CSA5 or SAMP/T spot you they can just slam you with a missile that you can’t realistically avoid from that position
Or get slammed by a plane.
This means that Su-30 has a significantly easier weapon to use, with more effective range.
You also need to take A2A kit into account which I specifically did mention no?
SPICE carriers like gripen sacrifice a lot for their kit and have a harder time using their munitions due to aforementioned limitations.
Not to mention they’re easier to intercept.
My opinion is that the loadouts are comparable
Not that one is objectively better.
There’s an airfield
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can confirm
Seen a few Gripen try this shenanigan on my team
They enjoyed an Aster-30, fresh from the silo, mach 4.5 directly in the teeth right after
Wasn’t pretty to watch
The gripen in your clips is sitting above the field at 10km
Any CAS plane can feel OP when there’s no opposition.
You did really explain how a game turns out to him? lol
And IRIS can shoot you down while landed on the airfield if you were unlucky and showed on hia radar for a second through terrain.
Every nation has its cancer.
Again metrics out of head…
If you can’t one tap t-series it’s on you. I never had a problem with one tapping them
If you can’t one tap abrams it’s on you. I never had a problem with one tapping them
welcome to the club i guess…
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The 10.7 Abrams is pretty amazing anyway
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I’ve actually had Abrams survive a few lfp shots lately if I didn’t hit the driver
Got me killed once
This was with DM53 too