So, the new addition of short/medium range multivehicle SAM system’s have brought new features, and quite a few nations are missing out on this new gameplay feature. Namely, two big players Russia/USSR and Sweden. Both which could have received a SAM system I hold very dear, the BUK-M1 launch systems.
Before someone yaps off about ‘Russia has the Pantsir though!!’ Please leave it out of the discussion, or it will be flagged as off topic.
With a main radar system, as well as an option between a fully self-sufficient model with 4 Missiles and a Tracking radar itself, there is also another launcher with 8 missiles that relies off the radar command vehicle. Now for the confusing part.
The two variants can be added, the fully self-sufficient one, as well as the multi-vehicle SAM. There also may be confusion on why Sweden would get this system, this is because their Finnish sub-tree used the BUK-M1 system, however, if memory serves my right, they only used the self-sufficient version.
Pantsir would be competitive in short/medium range SPAA if gaijin would finally fix their radar.
Its so bad how its been for so long, only reason ppl didnt complain is it was far and away already the best spaa. And its not even neccesarily the radar, its the extremely buggy tws mode that makes the radar near unusable against targets firing missiles or even chaffing in some cases.
I dont mind russia not being top dog, the other problem tho is compression, everything is smashed into 11.7/12.0 when it could easily be strung out between 11.3 and 13.x/14.0
Its a cruel joke the flakrad is 11.7 and the irist is 12.0.
Way to start your topic with a combative statement. The Pantsir is perfectly adept at the same niche the BUKs would fill, unless you want it at a lower BR (seems to be the case, since the early BUKs would be hot dogshit in WT). Additionally, besides the multi-vehicle system, Pantsir can take advantage of every feature added in ‘Leviathans’.
Also, Sweden just got the EldE. Now, I’m not a fan of it, since it’s literally just a gimped version of the IRIS-T SL at the same BR (no DL channel and lack of launch range really hurts its ability to combat IR AGM slingers), but you seem to be insinuating that Sweden is missing out on ‘Leviathans’ features, which, like above, isn’t true except in one very specific feature. Britain would be much more deserving of such a system, the Indian export BUKs.
it’s a SARH missile.
the self-sufficient model is not really “self-sufficient”, it’s still part of the whole system, though it can operate alone but it only has fire control radar, the launcher with 8 missiles need the fire control radar to light the target. the search radar can’t provide target irradiation.
so, if it’s coming, I guess it will be a search radar vehicle and 2 “self-sufficient model”.
and for performance, I guess BUKM3 will be the most powerful top missile in flight performance, especially in energy.
Despite the addition, according to other players it don’t performs very well compared to other new systems added lately, despite its capabilities I would say that the ItO-90M still effective.
They flagged mine for pointing out Britain needed a top end SPAA and the Pantsir fills the role currently for russia. They think the forums are reddit and if you dont agree with them they attack or hide your posts. Bah well
Its performance would make it still one of the best short to medium range SPAA in game if it actually functioned properly. The radar TWS mode will always pull lock off a target if it fires any kind of rocket even dumb ones causing that launch to be cooked. The auto guidance mode does the same, if you fire at say a typhoon automatically that missile will go for any brimstone he fires after launch.
This has been the case for over a year now and wasnt a priority to fix because all the other spaa were worse even with the completely hampered radar on the pantsir. Can’t even imagine the riots if the pantsir radar was fixed many patches ago.
