The ‘mud spike’ in my heart

So, the new addition of short/medium range multivehicle SAM system’s have brought new features, and quite a few nations are missing out on this new gameplay feature. Namely, two big players Russia/USSR and Sweden. Both which could have received a SAM system I hold very dear, the BUK-M1 launch systems.

Before someone yaps off about ‘Russia has the Pantsir though!!’ Please leave it out of the discussion, or it will be flagged as off topic.

With a main radar system, as well as an option between a fully self-sufficient model with 4 Missiles and a Tracking radar itself, there is also another launcher with 8 missiles that relies off the radar command vehicle. Now for the confusing part.

The two variants can be added, the fully self-sufficient one, as well as the multi-vehicle SAM. There also may be confusion on why Sweden would get this system, this is because their Finnish sub-tree used the BUK-M1 system, however, if memory serves my right, they only used the self-sufficient version.


(Buk launcher system)


(Buk radar system)


(Finnish flavored Buk-M1 standalone SAM)

While there is a standalone version, it would be more difficult for the crew to have easy target acquisition at range due to its ‘static’ nature.

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what kind of guidance system does it use?

Buk-M3 because early communist ones really aren’t that good in comparison to pantsir (being buk-m1).

I think Buk-M2 and M3 missiles would work, M3 might be a stretch due to it’s speed, but they all have relatively low G overload so it’s kinda balanced

Pretty sure tracking is on the launching vehicle and search radar is the 9S18

It’s SARH

Pantsir would be competitive in short/medium range SPAA if gaijin would finally fix their radar.

Its so bad how its been for so long, only reason ppl didnt complain is it was far and away already the best spaa. And its not even neccesarily the radar, its the extremely buggy tws mode that makes the radar near unusable against targets firing missiles or even chaffing in some cases.

I dont mind russia not being top dog, the other problem tho is compression, everything is smashed into 11.7/12.0 when it could easily be strung out between 11.3 and 13.x/14.0

Its a cruel joke the flakrad is 11.7 and the irist is 12.0.

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Actually I think its ARH, just because with my experience with it in DCS is that it doesnt ping RWR until its very close, may be SARH though.

Edit: Looked it up, they are SARH

Sweden literally got the elde98

You mean one big player, the only one without any long range SPAA known as britain? Sweden got one, and USSR has the Pantsir

Way to start your topic with a combative statement. The Pantsir is perfectly adept at the same niche the BUKs would fill, unless you want it at a lower BR (seems to be the case, since the early BUKs would be hot dogshit in WT). Additionally, besides the multi-vehicle system, Pantsir can take advantage of every feature added in ‘Leviathans’.

Also, Sweden just got the EldE. Now, I’m not a fan of it, since it’s literally just a gimped version of the IRIS-T SL at the same BR (no DL channel and lack of launch range really hurts its ability to combat IR AGM slingers), but you seem to be insinuating that Sweden is missing out on ‘Leviathans’ features, which, like above, isn’t true except in one very specific feature. Britain would be much more deserving of such a system, the Indian export BUKs.

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Good way to start the topic well as of right now pantsir is absolutely fine . Tell me when pantsir was added and from that time how much time it took for other nations to catch up to it .

it’s a SARH missile.
the self-sufficient model is not really “self-sufficient”, it’s still part of the whole system, though it can operate alone but it only has fire control radar, the launcher with 8 missiles need the fire control radar to light the target. the search radar can’t provide target irradiation.
so, if it’s coming, I guess it will be a search radar vehicle and 2 “self-sufficient model”.
and for performance, I guess BUKM3 will be the most powerful top missile in flight performance, especially in energy.