In this game, some things rarely work well. Is it worth messing with them? I think the Rafale is one of the most balanced planes in the game. In my opinion, it’s better not to draw the developers’ attention to it. =)
Thread was created by French players for a French missile. If you want threads for others, feel free to make them.
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I mean it’s fair enough, others can be in the same state as long as it’s not derailing this thread.
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Why would you NOT get support for a common cause which is underperforming missiles getting fixed?
lol
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Yeah, not saying they shouldn’t be fixed. But thread’s for mica because mica is directly relevant to the player interest that created the thread. I think it all should be pretty accurate, but best course is to create threads for each missile than make a mess of a single thread.
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There’s three missiles that all got the same treatment, only arguing on behalf of one doesn’t make sense.
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20-25 km is the most comfortable range for launching the MICA. In fact, the plane itself, with its characteristics, is designed for close and medium-range combat. Well, that’s my subjective opinion.
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Because it creates a mess regarding organisation. I am not opposed to them getting fixed, but it’s generally better to point explicitly to the fault than “all these things are bad” as that allows for things to be missed.
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I would have been inclined to include the other missiles such as AAM-4 and PL-12 if there were existing acknowledged reports for their missing ranges, unfortunately I don’t think any exist, otherwise feel free to drop the link here. In the thread above the MICA EM’s missile has a report open on it and the link was included.
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Sadly yes and we can’t realy do anything about it.
If it is correcly backed-up and enought people show that they care about it it can be worth. If you look at the french 330mm AP shell, it is one of the biggest win of the naval comunity. So it might be worth, but we would have to really think about it and be carefull about how thing are presented.
Yes they tend to break stuff even more when they try to fix them.
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Fortunately for France, the Gripen already took the main brunt of their ire regarding Eurodeltas. For the most part, enough pressure will get things fixed when they deem it sensible. They’d be hard pressed to take a hatchet to it after what they did to Gripen 😿
Thanks to the efforts of folk like @DirectSupport, they would be hard pressed to break this. Too many documents.
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R.I.P. that guy, sacrificed for a greater good (just kidding it is one of the saddest nerf i ever saw).
Thank god their are people like im in the comunity. Idk were we would be if they weren’t here to save stuff from utter annahilation.
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You quite literally cried about this LAST update with the R-77-1, and the Rafale was still the best plane in-game afterwards. This is getting ridiculous.
The Rafale is currently the plane everyone else has to play catch-up with, not the underdog you keep pretending it to be.
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and he’s right on both times, huge revelation
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Are you saying that AIM-120C-5 doesn’t change things? Keep in mind that the AIM-120C-5 on dev-server is WIP.
With that said, MICA EM’s real counterpart was AIM-120C-5 and now that it is here and very likely to get implemented well, MICA EM should get its full capabilities.
It is not like the AIM-120C was simply only added on the F-18s, instead it has now been added onto F-15E which was already the best BVR aircraft in the game.
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What is even your point ??? You want Rafale to only be allowed in close range or what ?
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Yeah this insistence on keeping MICA EM as a short or medium-short ranged missile is pretty weird. The addition of more large maps to top tier air rb and potentially sim such as the Falklands will mean that these longer-ranged counterpart missiles will be able to stretch their legs.
Further, AIM-120C-5 will now have the reduced seeker width similar to that of MICA EM, so now people can’t keep regurgitating that BVR is not the meta, when AIM-120C-5 will make BVR more likely.
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No, it clearly changes things, its a buff to jets that have been performing the worst in top tier air rb, while you’re once again asking for buffs to thr jets that have been performing the best.
Falklands size isnt anything special, current top maps are 126x126km (Afghanistan, Sinai, Denmark, Rocky Canyon, Spain), Falklands is 130x130km. Its marginally larger, but unlikely to be something anyone notices.
BVR still wont be the meta, particularly when the R-77-1 and MICA-EM are both being buffed to fire outside of their gimbal limits, making them even better at being used high-offbore.
You’ve proven time and time again that you vastly underestimate how good the MICA and Rafale are in-game, and vastly overestimate everything else, either out of pure ignorance as you’ve never played anything but france in top tier ait, or solely for the malicious purpose of maximum imbalance in your favour.
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Ah right, can’t wait for when mica ir ng is added with half the range and you still complaining that it is already too op !!!
It’s really not serious at some point.
The F-15E isn’t the worst performing 14.0, and it’s why everyone is so annoyed at Gaijin.
If it were russian, the forums would be on fire for weeks until Gaijin removed the missiles, but since it’s American it’s fine.
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