Yeah I had no problem with F-18s getting AIM-120C, I have never considered them a serious threat in an air RB match, and instead a small annoyance, but the F-15E/Is were also getting them and also now the Eurofighter.
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If it was limited to F18s, it wouldn’t really matter to have MICA (or other missiles) improved on account of the F18s being able to provide sod all additional launch energy. But it coming to platforms like EFT and the F15s warrant MICA being brought up to par. It is a medium range missile with dogfight capability by design, it is a travesty that the competitor come in and MICA still be limited to a short range dogfight missile if you want it to connect with a target.
Would also note the argument that range doesn’t matter which has been used to say long range missiles are worse off would mean that MICA receiving an improved range should not be as problematic as people are crying over, if their logic were consistent.
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It’s a reactionary thread because you guys are complaining that the MICA will be outclassed when the C-5 is added. Completely ignoring that maybe, just maybe the game isn’t ready for this so called unnerfed MICA.
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Sigh. Gaijin has no feel for balance. Why can’t they just fix it’s dang radar and move on…
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Seems like C-5 were nerfed heavily too
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We shouldn’t have problems with reactionary threads if there’s good and compelling arguments.
That might have been valid for the previous C5, now the reworked is just an 120A/B w less drag and a slightly extended motor, with the same maneuverability and ease to be notched.
Well, this turns out to be true. Moreso considering that 120C5 won’t be as threatening + they’re already eating decently with the offbore MEM slinging.
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This is why the thread was made, we already knew what was coming.
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doesnt actually have a sustainer, just a longer burning motor, it has a slightly higher total impulse but peak thrust is 33% lower than 120A hence 120A actually hitting before 120C at close to medium ranges
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It only gets worse by the minute, its so joever
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Yeah its more of a 120A+(ish) now. Though its pretty embarrassing seeing french mains complaining they might have competition now and that would somehow be unfair
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I know I know, they thing their “best plane” can’t handle a ever so slightly better AMRAAM…
Rafale is just OP at this point, if he didn’t had all those stupid buff it got, especially engine power, I would have been fine with it getting a buffed MICA.
Not to mention MICA seeker got buffer because why not… never heard one of them complain about it
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I dont really wanna comment on the Rafale FM, since im pretty sure the current situation is more that competitor aircrafts are underperforming rather than the Rafale is overperforming, but the thread asking for pre-emptive buffs to a jet that in its current state should arguably be 2-3 BR steps higher than it currently is is just stupid.
As it currently stands, the 120C-5 is unlikely to change much at all most likely, seemingly being a very marginal improvement in performance of long range shots. I doubt the Rafales performance in-game is gonna be dented in any way by the introduction of the 120C-5 in its current state, and it will most likely actually perform even better following the update due to the buff to the MICA.
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I agree. Here’s the difference between 120B (red) and 120C (green)
Interesting launch platform
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Providing Aim-120C5 is actually modeled properly and not an Aim-120A+ then MICA, AAM-4, PL-12 and any others I’m forgetting could do with gaining their IRL performance. Though as it currently stands. MICA is probably still stronger than AIM-120C5
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At what distance does 120C start to overtake 120A do you know?
i think it is at the start, because the 120C-5 has a stronger motor
like 15km traveled
so for ~20km shots or further
no its not