With the upgraded version’s mobility getting even worse (and it wasn’t great to begin with!), plus the standard tank’s definitely inflated BR? No, I don’t think so.
You’re overstating the mobilty decrease. In any situation the tank with additional atgms with 700mm of pen should have at least a one BR step up from the base model.
Also I would like your opinion on the Raketenjagdpanzers being 8.0 and 8.3 respectively.
I don’t know their base as well as the AMX-13, but I’m pretty sure it’s two pieces of 💩. However, I can’t help but note that each of those ATGM carriers has an advantage over the HOT: the ability to fire at enemies directly in front of them.
I’m a France main after all, not Germany. So, unlike in the French tree, I’m not going to max out every vehicle* in the German tree.
*All vehicle except: the AMX-13 HOT – I’m not touching it. Also, I’m skipping the American copy-paste tanks (I don’t wanna have to grind the same vehicle twice or more on different tech trees). And I’m also skipping the SAMs; the grind is just too long since there aren’t enough planes in matches to level them up quickly.
That is one advantage. But the AMX-13 also has an advantage over those 2 simply due to the fact that it has an actual gun. Also if you use a custom sight you can fire directly in front. I had quite a few 50m or less atgm kills after installing that sight.
It’s honestly not that bad. I myself decided to draw the line at the CV9035NL. That thing is just not fun to play at all.
honestly same. There is a reason my TT looks like this
I, on the other hand, really liked it.
How? I liked the VBCI more. The bushmaster on the 9035 does no damage and also has shit firerate, the mobility is not great and it’s overall just underwhelming.
VBCI is fun, but not effective, while the CV9035… I’ve nuked the heck out of maps with that thing.
But, I won’t argue, it’s a very skill-intensive vehicle. You need to know the random elements really well (positions, common routes, enemy armor - who to shoot in the side, who you can pen frontally) at this BR. But I’ll absolutely disagree about the damage – for an autocannon with that rate of fire, it’s more than acceptable. Getting kills with the CV9035 is much easier and more satisfying than with the VBCI.
Yeah somehow I had the exact opposite experience. Way more effective in the VBCI (except when I immediately got killed by someone else on the same flank) I don’t think I have had any decemt battles i the 9035
basically every 8.3 french tnak should in 7.7 or 8.0…
Not really . The 8.3 lights are perfectly alright where they are. Even the 8.0 ones are (except the char 25T)
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Yes, large majority of 8.0 french ground vehicles are just poo. Why do they do that to France ?
Not really though. The char 25 is overtiered the others are fine.
Which one specifically is poo?
AMX-30 S DCA doesn’t have its APDS anymore, and isn’t stabilized neither. Yet it sits at 8.7 while the Gepard sits at 8.3.
As a french main, I don’t understand this nonsense decision.
Well the dca is not an 8.0 vehicle. But I will agree it makes absolutely no sense that it is higher than the gepard. It has nothing better than it except rhe guns being closer together
It has worse radar, mobility and no stab
And no APDS either
I was talking about the 8.0-8.7 BR bracket
Well as I said the 8.3 are fine. The 8.0 only the char 25 is overtiered and probably all the 8.7 except maybe the brenus and mephisto could go down to 8.3.
Hence french tanks at this BR bracket are poo
They aren’t they are just overtiered. And that is like 3 or 4 vehickes in total. The char 25, amx30b2, sk105 and the dca30. The rest are fine.
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I gotta disagree on the char 25t, as a light tank it’s not great but as a lightly armoured medium it’s fantastic.
Because you know, a 4 second reload long 90mm aphe slinger with reverse speed the same as its forward speed, is really good in the right hands, and when you compare it to 7.7 mediums, that thing is objectively better than everything else at that br by a long mile in every department besides armour.
Really it’s only downside are the crappy French mgs it has.
Yeah but compared to the other 8.0 french vehicles it just is not as good.