The Leopard 2A8 is finally coming! Let’s go!

i dont rly want to read too far up but were those flamboyant claims something to do with the fact that every nato tank gets the turret stuck after being fired upon but the russians dont?

or the fact that even after that advantage after getting shot in the autoloader they will now load anyay manually?

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The claims were about him being able to get 60% of win rate and a kd of 2 with russian tanks without even trying. And a guy gifted him the t80u to prove it.

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Would never have guessed, that he will just make up more excuses after he obviously couldn’t do it.
Too far down the victim/delulu hole.

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1.70, still a better k/d than ur t-80u while I never touched a t-series of my life.

2.00 2S38 k/d, still better than u while I never touched it

Remember, still better than u while not even trying :

→ I don’t stay hull down back of the map all game long so I can get as many kills as I want without even trying to cap, juste to maximize my kd. I don’t leave when half the team does. I don’t leave when CAS is up. I don’t leave when team is bad. I don’t artificially increase my kd playing the META / low tier / CAS. I don’t artificially increase my kd with CAS spam. All that just to maximize the kd. I just play for the win, the lore and the fun.

Although, something tells me that’s exactly what YOU do (I know how to watch passed matches, you’re not fooling anyone). ;)

Sad!

Damn that was fast:
bug_report answer

Alright, we’ll wait and see

Good. We really dont need purely mock up stuff in this game. Im happy that the devs are absolutely consistent regarding that.
/s

So you are better then me ? If you think so, lmfao.

Above you literally said you have no problem sitting in one spot the entire match for your larp reasons.

Tell me what exactly i do please, im wondering.

Yeah i am not going to lie, 7.4 degrees is abysmal dogshit, the tanks with l55a1 basically became unplayble to me, because i can’t go hull down with them, its as simple as that, the depression fucks me over way too many times, i sincerely don’t see a point in me playing them, when the abrams exist

Abrams is faster in both forward and reverse(noticeably so, 40 vs 28 reverse and 68 vs 63/60)

Abrams has a superior reload( 5.3 on vets vs 6 ACED, lmao, what an absolute joke)

Abrams has 10 degrees of gun depression, which is even better than the 9 degrees of leos before the nerf, its actually heaven

Leopards 653mm doesn’t mean shit at top tier, you still nonpen the stuff you would nonpen with m829a2 or a3, and you still pen everything those aforementioned american shells do, literally zero reason to fawn over leos pen

Abrams can bring a shitton more shells into the match(i bring 30), which is very important to me, i run out of 16 shells far too often to not take more than that, but if i take even a single round more, i become MUCH more vulnerable, as that hull ammo reduced your ability to survive by that much, especially worse now that i have to expose myself EVEN MORE with due to depression

Abrams has a 50 cal, which isn’t all that impressive, but i find it quite useful

Leopards don’t even have tracking, so your dm11 shells are useless, unlike abramses mpats

Leopards armour doesn’t mean jackshit, straight up, literally, it barely saves you, you, just like abrams, can get one tapped in the neck, and you have 3 clowns sitting in a straight row, just waiting to get one tapped either through lfp, or a drivers port, or a slightly visible side, even the turret armour is worse, because you can’t really angle it to the left or right, the shell will still go through leos composite and take your gun our, very very cool

So tell me somebody please, why should i go for the 2a7v or 2a8, when sepv3 and m1a2 trophy exist ?
Am i missing something out on leo ?

Leopards need 5 sec reload and a revert on the depression bs, even a difference of 9 vs 10 degrees is already big, loosing so much of your already inferior to abrams depression is just death

Gaijin and some players got so scared by the leos that now they only get nerfs after 3-4 years. I dont remember the last time they got a buff. And dont forget that after 90 something degrees even before the nato hump. I think the only change for the Leopards to get a buff now is by getting the KE Neo round. But Im pretty sure even if we get the KE Neo or the 140mm version of the leopard Im pretty sure Relict will still stop them

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oh yeah i forgot to mention the nato hump, haha, literally the worst of all of the nato tanks, and tho not that often, it can fuck you up at times, definitely did to me a couple times, but only a couple, hence why i forgot

You’re sounding like a bit of a tier whore but I agree with most of your points. I think the leo still holds an edge in turret armor, Abrams is more likely to take critical damage through the neck or into its turret ammo (glancing or breech shots)
I really thought they would’ve improved the 2a8 so the cheeks are stronger, as they did with the sep v3. That part is annoying.

The 2A7/2A8 are still solid vehicles. Doing poorly in them is still a choice more than anything. Although yes the SEPv3 has a bit of an edge now.

Spall liner of Leopard 2A8/7 doesn’t do anything imho. I didn’t play Leopard 2A7 for a long time and just recently started again to grind the new stuff. But imho they switched it somehow off…didn’t they? Also I can’t use hulldown positions, cause my gun isn’t depressing anymore. Hull armor also feels worse. You can’t survice frontal hits, somehow you always getting killed or crippled. What happened to the imroved hull armor I remembered to be a nice improvement over A6?

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So they added a tank to the game modeled after a 2025 mockup probably (which didn’t have the LWS), but suddenly the 2026 mockup with the LWS is an issue for them?

APS too get killed frontl from krisantema

The tank we got is modeled after the 2025 rollout version so not having LWS is fine for that version.
The annoying thing about the situation are the other recent additions. We get an Israeli plane thats only a rendering. The russians get a missile thats only a mockup. The radar of the Mig35 is from an expo. The SU30SM2 is completely questionable. The Japanese SU30 can get mock up missiles Malaysia never ordered. The Strvs get ammo that Sweden never operated. The Eurofighters get Spice 250 from an expo and a brochure, so does the Gripen E.
But the 2A8 gets put under as much scrutiny as possible and everything that could make it better is seemingly impossible to get.

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Which one?

Know i get killed form a Ztz with rocket…

And spike from heli killed me too with brand new Tank

this one: https://militaeraktuell.at/en/super-tanks-at-eurosatory-26-knds-leopard-2a8/

Notice how it has the same LWS as the Norwegian one?
The one Germany explicitly DIDN’T select
It literally has nothing to do with the German configuration