So we all know that the leopard 2a7v got an armor nerf and it does not make sense. Why does the mexas armor on the leopard 2a7v have lower multiplier then the strv122 when its the same armor?? And the leopard 2a7v have D tech internal composite armor in the beak but ofc gaijin is lazy and wont care about that. The leopard 2a7v should be even more armored then the strv122. The strv122 is 20 years old compared the leopard 2a7v and it has worse armor?? Like how does that even make sense, give the leo the D tech armor is should have
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Oh yeah!!
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If its protection worked than the t90m couldn’t point and click on it so gaijin fucked it over instead
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Apparently KMW saw fit to make the composites of the 2A7V equal to or weaker than that of the 2A4. The hull protection is the same but the side turret armour of the 2A7V is even weaker against chemical munitions than the 2A4 despite being 10mm thicker and 35+ years newer.
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i gotta do some research into that, that does not sound right, if it was like that why tf would they do it?
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nah sorry for the confusion I’m talking about in game. The 2A4 literally has better chemical protection on its base armour that the 2A7V which is absurd.
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ohhh alright yeah thats fucking weird
the tank has a new gearbox with a different ratio for the same pull as an A6 and the same top speed for which it needs a minimum longer of 70kmh !!! 70 not 68kmh and not 61kmh you just had to look on the website of the user bataillion or at knds.de the producer …
DM53 is a joke too in use is DM73 end next year come DM83 …
gajin come on …
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Lack of D-tech inside hull armor (offering an excellent protection of 600mm KE and 1200mm CE WITHOUT hull beak addon modules) now offering only 650mm even with the addon beak armor modules - Arificialy nerfed
Lack of protection of the “Advanced composite armor” modules at the beak of the tank (D-tech as well offering less protection than a Leo 2 TVM PROTOTYPE from 20 years ago and less than the STRV 122) - Arificialy nerfed
Lack of mobility (Yea I can understand being heavier for the armor upgrade but there´s no armor upgrade due the artificial nerf) - You lose mobility for nothing
Lack of modeling/protection on the turret cheeks/cannon mantlet - Arificialy nerfed
Missing one layer of composite armor on the turret right cheek (reported, aknowledged, labeled as fixed but still missing. Maybe it will be on the live server but not on the DEV) - Model error not solved
The inside hull sides ballistic protection offer less protection than the same modules from the STRV 122 (being the same, if they´re not better) - Arificialy nerfed
This affect al Leo 2 tanks with addon armour at the beak- Bad modeled armor for protection about the addon beak armor modules (For the ones who don´t understand what i am talking about: Gaijin.net // Issues 5) - Arificialy nerfed/Bad model nerfing/Aknowledged for ever
No Spall Liner (no need more comments) - Artificially Nerf/Adding first to the same nation as ever
It should also have better acceleration due to its new gearbox but ofc gaijin will not think about that. Its is so sad to see yall nerfing tank to make the t90m seem the best
Yall also made the overall armor of all the leos worse for some reason. it was already super nerfed and now it becoming pretty obvious that gaijin is artifically nerfing the Leopard 2 series of tanks. I hope this will help with fixing this issue and i hope to see the real performance of the leopards in game!
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This is why i stopped playing germany. This is the treatment leo2s have been getting since the beginning, with comically low estimates of protection.
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Just weakened German Leopard 2, not Swedish Leopard 2, German orthodoxy in Sweden
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The strv122 had more armor berfore the patch. almost 100mm more in the hull and much more in the turret
i checked via “protection” viewer but found not really a spot
So how ?
there is like 400 to 1000mm? armor…
+the amount of times ppl destroy my turret ring is unreal
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That’s cus the turret ring is exposed (not a bug according to @WestlanD_BrO):
While other Leo 2s have is properly hidden inside the hull:
The neck guard is also too small, so it doesn’t actually protect against anything.
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ah so in the end the armored ufp is pointless because ppl will just shoot at my breach (that still crates so much spalling…) or turret ring
Nice
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Funfact: You used to be only able to take out the Driver and loader with a 12mm but after the recent nerf where they nerfed it even more. now you can takeout every crew with a 12mm (atleast in projectile analysis, haven’t tested it ingame but it’d be weird if it penetrates in the projectile analysis and not ingame. but it’s still very bugy with the losat so it might be too with every Leopard in projecitle analysis only)
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