They all use the same kind of optical range finder, just like the amx50 Foch or the surblindé. Those all have the same speed, but will depend on crew skill and qualification. I don’t know the exact values however
Im so confused at this point, it seems like the wiki stats and ingame statscard matches for some vehicle but not for others.
And how is test drive working here, if u don’t own the vehicle, does it give u a basic level 1 crew, but if you train the vehicle, it will allow you to test drive with your high-level crew?
So here are some examples:
On wiki for Somua, AMX50 TO90/930 (which I have in game), The horizontal Traverse ace crew = 30, 36 degrees /sec. Which is consistent from the in game stats card.
For AMX30 and Clovis (I don’t own them), wiki shows 30, 36 degrees, but it seems like the in game stats card is missing the value from the horizontal traverse modification.
With the same rate as AMX50 without mod.
Weirdly enough, the engine horsepower is representation of vehicle with all the mobility modification on, those statscards number are not consistent somehow.
I believe in test drive you can force the crew to be level 1 now, would need to check.
Otherwise, yeah, stat cards don’t make sense lol. And whatever you do, do not trust the wiki. It’s usually only correct for the first few days of a vehicle introduction and will not be updated following changes to the vehicle or its BR.
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oh and that is not the worst thing… the maneuveraility of the tank should be on par with the abrams but it is not why? No idea… Like same weight and width and length but still leclerc cannot turn on a whim like abrams can and when it does it loses all its speed. Maybe it is a bug but too lazy to make a bug report make a bug report
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I’ve been having some of the most hairpulling experience w the OFL 120 F1. It just seems so unreliable in my experience. Has it been the same for yall?
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Yes, the shell has a bit less PEN than the rest which gives it less spalling. It also weighs less which again gives it less spalling. Combine these two factors and you have a shell that does less post PEN damage than other. Now add spall liners on enemy tanks and you do even less post PEN damage.
I play both France and USSR, many times I shot an enemy and don’t get kill In the Leclerc when I know I would have if I was using a T-90 or T-80.
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Well, according to the dev preview, the new Leclerc has a very good gun, but has no armour. So at least it is an improvement on the standard Leclerc by finally having a good gun.😿
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if there’s no armor how is it 55 tons tho. So my guess it’s wip
(Edit: 2325hp because it’s arcade, so it’s normal)
Anyone feel the Leclerc MSC is on par with the Leo PT16 or does it need to be 10.3? Due to armor? I personally will only touch the tech tree 2a4NL to get the spaded rp toward the MSC. Wishing that the Super Etendard had stayed at 10.7 in G-RB.
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protoclerc will probably have ofl f1 and gen 2 thermals so they’re at least comparable and I might even argue that the protoclerc is better
Probably G2, not F1
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Also folks, it is expected that the MSC will not come with any kind of armor. The fact that it does not carry composite is confirmed by primary sourced (thanks Mulatu, you might be banned, but not forgotten)
It’s such a shame that gaijin doesn’t even try to contact us, the knowledgeable community, one of the reason they would not add it as a premium (which would honestly have been so much better than the Leo 2atrash) is because they were clueless about the vehicle, but we had most of the necessary information lying around
edit : I also was told that mulatu (and probably with @vickers43850) will handle the reports, I’ll keep you informed on the progression of things as they go, since Mulatu can’t post anymore (thanks Xavier Tytelman)
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53 tonnes of air ?
currently 53t is simple S1 copy paste. From some other (somewhat) sketchy secondary source, it probably is more along the lines of 46-48t
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Don’t forget to wash your hands.
It’ll have good mobility, decent firepower, and good optics. The thermal and LRF combo alone should always place it above the PT16.
As for the SEM, it is what it is…
Gaijin pls m47 with composite armor lol
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In January 1986, the EPC was officially named the Leclerc tank by Paul Quilès, the French Minister of Defense at the time, during a major presentation of the program to high-level political and military authorities at Satory, in the presence of Madame Maréchale Leclerc.
The TSC (Complete Turret System), which functionally assembled the fire components (gun, sights, aiming systems, fire control, automatic loading), was completed in 1986. Once integrated onto the 3 BR chassis, it gave rise to the MSC (Complete System Mule), which was very representative of what the future Leclerc tank would be functionally.
Additionally, the composite armor boxes (see the Survivability chapter) were tested on the Bourges firing ranges, mounted on old M47 chassis, among others.
Six development and qualification prototypes were built: the first three and the fifth at AMX-APX, and the third and sixth at Roanne, to start the qualification of the industrial process. Compared to the MSC, these vehicles had two major differences: they incorporated nearly production-standard composite armor and were equipped with hydropneumatic suspension components. Each prototype was more or less dedicated to qualifying a major function: firepower, mobility, system integration, and protection. They were named in alphabetical order: Ares, Bayard, Carnot, Duroc, Estienne, and Foch.
The fifth prototype, Estienne (named after the General, father of French tanks), was the one subjected to the harshest tests as it was used to validate ballistic protection. It was moved to Bourges, where it was used as a target for all types of projectiles—flechettes, shaped charges, or mines—based on the operational specification. Having demonstrated the quality of its armor, it remains intact to this day, stored at a DGA facility.
In 1990, the Leclerc made its first major public appearance at the Satory exhibition. The first production models came off the production lines at Roanne and Tarbes. A contract planned for the delivery of 662 Leclerc tanks until 2008, with an average delivery rate of forty-four per year starting on August 21, 1992.
The first production Leclerc was delivered at the end of 1991.
translate for anyone lazy
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So we can still get one of the subsequent prototypes that had armor as 11.3/7 tank with a weaker shell like TKX (P) in the future