Leclerc will be getting it’s own custom sights(optional)
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It’s nice to see the devs did something for the Leclerc… but they still got it wrong:
This is what it should look like:
First photo is from a Leclerc simulator. The second is a diagram from some secondary source.
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Maybe it is something that could be bug reported
Although honestly the IRL one is a little busy and I wouldn’t use it
I’m yet to find where the diagram comes from. I’ll have to look around. But a simplified and historically accurate reticle would be nice to choose between.
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Because all soviet tanks that dont have it are of soviet origin.
Only tank that I could think of that can be considered russian modification that doesnt have thermals would be T-72BA.
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T-72B3 with thermals appeared in 2011.
T-90 initially got small numbers of Agava 2, getting far bigger production of 2006 T-90A with thermals.
T-80UM and T-80UE-1/ UA.
Wrong.
2006 T-72B2 would be.
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Yes, obviously the T-72B3 has thermal imagers. It’s one of the primary goals of the entire upgrade program.
The problem is that, though the T-72B3 is very common, it’s still not common enough to make up the majority of the Russian tank fleet by 2022-.
T-72B '85, T-72B '89, T-80U, T-80BV, T-64BV, T-80B, etc. generally do not feature thermal sights and they still make up the majority of tanks fielded.
The T-72B2 is the superior vehicle, but it is clearly not the more recent vehicle (which I believe is what they meant with ‘‘up to date’’).
T-72B3M is a good decade newer.
Yeah but they can’t mass produce it and also T72B3 has the potential for APS as that was the test bed for most of them.
Bad argument considering only current difference with T-72B2 is Relikt which they dump onto T-90M’s and side armour of tanks.
Just matter of time
Could you please comment on this @Smin1080p_WT ? Seeing as the Jaguar is probably the most anticipated French tank.
As I have already explained, the report cannot be forwarded. It’s not a bug or historical issue but a suggestion for a new feature not present in game.
As such, it should be created as a form suggestion proposal.
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And what of the Jaguar. As I explained, most of its capabilities come from mechanics which are not in game and which 99% of nations will never have an analogue for in the foreseeable future. Based on what you have said, is it safe to assume that a hypothetical addition of the Jaguar would be entirely doomed because of this?
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We have not announced any such vehicle currently. So there is no comment to make on a feature it may or may not have in game.
It’s just a hypothetical question I’m asking since any possible addition of this vehicle would seem destined to fail given the devs’ current party line. As you have said before, the Vextra 105 was given because it was a highly requested vehicle - the Jaguar must then be expected too (soon, hopefully).
Ok so the majority of Russian tanks had thermal imagers (SOSNA-U) by the time of a certain invasion.
Russia dont and havent used the T-64 in any form at all. The T-80B have all been upgraded to T-80BV models. If you can find an image of a T-80B in that part of the world in Russian service I will be impressed.
In the beginning of the conflict Russia was only operating it’s newest tanks as the attrition bit we saw
T-72B and other older tanks being put into service. One thing we also saw is the mass modernisation of tanks with Thermal sights! This was happening in 2022.
To say Russia only had a handful is false
My last comment on this before going back to the Leclerc topic :
I think the argument that Russian tanks don’t have thermals is very biased. At the beginning of 2022, most Russian tanks in service did feature thermals (and that’s about when Thales statement was made, maybe even before, hence why it was very probable). But as attrition made its work, they have gone back to using old reserve tanks, that were never upgraded.
The matter of the fact is that, at least before 2022, Russian MBTs usually had better optics than, let’s say, most M1s in service at this time
This is partially incorrect. In 2005 Raytheon rolled out the Block 1 B upgrade for the 2nd Gen thermals. Considering this also when the SEPV2 was being introduced it has been considered as part of the SEPV2 upgrade package.
The Block 1 B upgrade “Block 1 second generation FLIRs will improve Block 0 performance and put
more capability in the hands of war fighters. The new system generates a
clearer image with more scene contrast, less jitter and higher resolution.”
As for specifics in the upgrade I have no idea there’s no a lot of information on it.
Now for an infinitely more interesting bug report: Leclerc (All Variants) Stabiliser Underperforming
With all stabilisers there is a margin of error, the gun is never perfectly pointing where it needs to be whilst travelling on the move, especially cross-country. In game, however, the margin of error is up to 3x too high. The difference is quite severe:
When travelling at 70km/h and shooting a target at 4,000m there is currently a theoretical variance of 126cm in both axes. When travelling at this speed, the Leclerc should only have a variance of 40cm in both axes. This excludes the accuracy of the ammunition itself which would further increase the variance.
Unfortunately, this is less of an issue when every map you’re given is a city map :P
Here is a graph of the current stabilisation error (in degrees) over speed (km/h). The graph shouldn’t go above the red line:
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Hey @Smin1080p_WT ,
I’ve been told that there is some sort of issue with this stabiliser report? Could you please elaborate on this? This is quite literally a mechanic already present in War Thunder.