Oryx is not a good source, trust me… T62/T64 are not in active Russian service, they are kinda like the volunteers, so they were not used until slightly later such as early summer 2023 offense. Oryx uses all sources without evaluating some very strange western ones that state Russia has lost 3000 tanks and stuff, My estimation is that earlier tanks are actually in training maybe by late 2022 but not in active offense, anyhow in 2022 they still want it to be a quick one.
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Orryx is proven not to be reliable. They are not impartial.
No the only T-64 operated by Russia were ones captured from Ukraine. And sudsequently destroyed in combat by Russia/Ukraine.
The Russian invasion force that crossed in 2022.
T-72B3 was the main tank all have thermals.
T-80U and T-80BVM all have thermals.
T-90A has thermals (these are all derived from the Thales system they procured.)
Your words were the majority. The majority of Russian tanks used in the early months all had thermals including the IFVs, APCs and scout vehicles.
You then ignored the point that Russia is actively upgrading tanks to have that capability.
Your data point also backs up that Russia have used more tanks with thermals.
Anyway reply back if you want, this wont help to improve the Leclerc
‘‘Trust me bro’’
Given that you’ve got no evidence that supports your position, I’ll refer to the line: ‘‘That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence’’.
Anyways, I’m derailing this topic so I’ll leave it here.
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@Jεcka you wouldn’t happen to have any information on the stabilisation error of the Leopard 2’s gun drives would you? Currently, the Leclerc’s stabilisers aren’t stable enough and this increases dispersion by over 3 times when firing on the move. All stabilisers have been modelled with a degree of error of ~0.3mRad. I suspect the Leopard 2’s would be around 0.1mRad similar to the Leclerc’s.
After a ‘fruitful’ discussion with our dear community manager, the devs are going to do absolutely nothing about this for the Leclerc. But… German main whining has always been infinitely more formidable than French whining :P
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Real bro I just got out of a 1v5 with them about Swiss mirages.
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“There is a non-zero chance someone spoke german within the same zipcode as the vehicle once, therefore it needs to go to the german tree.”
Joke aside, germany being one of the most popular and profitable tree, it’s no wonder they’ll have a higher probability of landing shaky claims…
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Yeah I explained to them that they can have everything else, F-5s, F-18s, the whole 9 yards but they were really adamant about the Mirage IIIS which germany had no role in creating and the TT has zero need for.
Idk what it is with them and owning the whole world but it’s annoying.
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Nah thats what Britain is in forums and what was once.
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Sadly Swiss Mirage will probably end up in German tree but hey we can always get Mirage3NG in our Tech tree, its basically Mirage3S but better in every way.
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Behave there are multiple posts of German mains
We should have that etc.
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Doesnt compare even close to the amount of british mains doing that since day 1 of WT existance.
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disagree, you forced them to give you the austrian sk105 instead of giving it to germany
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thats a lot of complaining for someone who will get german leopards in their tree
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eh, uk is worse
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Mirage NG my beloved
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According to whom?
I don’t see any South African air line?
Do you unironically believe that people were complaining about the fact that germany was getting the Austrian SK-105, over the fact that germany already had one of the most bloated 8.x and that the vehicle was a good enough fit for both trees ?
And then then few updates later we have the DF-105 where Gaijin told us “Isokay lads, no need to complain about this one, France will receive the FL-12 on a domestic vehicle.” so very few complained, and now soon to be three years later said domestic option with a FL-12 is still nowhere to be seen.
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Hopefully it will arrive soon.
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What does the south africsn airline have to do with this?.
France will be getting multiple leopard variants for the ground line, thats already known trough leaks
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That is what happend.
You realy believe the mains of the other nations would realy have cared that much for france?
There is plenty of france mains that recall it the way i said. And i took that information from them.
Quote me anywhere where i said i agree with that decision by gajin personaly.
Either way i happily skipped sk105 and df 105 becsuse of gajind tree movement shenanigans.
Fact is the thing i recalled was how it happend
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