Pretty sure that wasn’t reported yet.
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We are always looking for new information and sources at all the time. We have over 2000+ vehicles in game, each requiring that same process. Here we are just talking about 1 tank series.
Its always going to be the case however that no matter how much research our internal team do, they will naturally be outnumbered by the community in terms of the sheer volume of numbers and natural scaled number of eyes able to find things. We have many thousands of players but not many thousands of developers or researchers. So its always going to be possible to a larger group of people to find things over a smaller group.
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The UFP yes, is underperforming by quite a lot.
A report about it is coming soon™
As someone that have worked on finding sources for the Leclerc, this isn’t always easy, especially for French Vehicles that are still classified and will be for much time yet, by the time Leclerc manuals and documents will be declassified and useable we will have to wait for quite a lot, same could be said for original firing tests about Leclerc armor, hence why we have to work with that we get, which isn’t a lot for the Leclerc specifically.
Older reports have been refused as @Smin1080p told you, currently there are active reports for the armor and hopefully they will be worked on. In the next months hopefully a better report for the UFP will come and Developers can work on it.
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Then solution is simple, take more time with modelling vehicles, make more detailed research and ask help from community if you get stuck in process.
This kind of approach will be much better then releasing half baked vehicles in my book and will help you to increase your trust level in communities eyes.
Precisely. As Smin said, they got over 2,000+ vehicles to take care of; so, the easier we make it to them and the better we can hand them the solutions to certain complex issues, the better.
Proof of this is Challenger 2’s mantlet. It was always a complex matter; we always knew it was underperforming, but never exactly to which degree. The classified document incident happened, etc…
But, later, we managed to find enough public images that gave good insight on the mantlet’s structure; and, ever since, the developers have been, indeed, working on Challenger 2’s mantlet as according, exactly, to the images and sources we managed to provide to them, and an update is underway for the next Major Update, along with many other numerous improvements and corrections.
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Exactly, thats my point.
İ know its not easy to find those documents and make bug reports but if you can do it they can do that as well.
Developers are normal people, they do not have access to classified documents or things we cannot get, all they can get is by research, just like we do.
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Nobody Said anything about getting access to classified documents.
All of your reports contains information that has been published and declassified, it clearly shows its not impossible to find those documents and make it vehicle as accurate as possible.
Sure it takes good amount of time to find those documents but this shouldnt be an excuse every single time we asked same questions.
I also believe that it is vital NOT to antagonise the developers, let alone the messengers/intermediaries (such as @Smin1080p ), while talking about these matters. It is important to incentivise a healthy two-way communication rather than lashing out at them whenever they try to reach out, because that will only lead them to avoid interacting; and what we need to do is to encourage said kind of communication as much as we can!
Never said they did.
What i wanted to say is that Developers have the same sources we do, the difference stays in the fact that they might have more people looking for sources, however that doesn’t give them more sources than we do.
In this 6 months of research for the Leclerc i can almost say confidentially to you that its impossible to find other public sources about the armor for the Leclerc, some weeks/months ago we got some informations about the Leclerc armor and we’re working on building up a report for it tho.
So in this case i don’t blame the Developers for not finding much about the Leclercs, because in fact there isn’t much.
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İts quite the opposite actually, im not blaming them for anything im just simply pointing the issue,asking questions and trying to give some ideas.
But they give us same answer every single time and saying they dont have enough people to research on those documents or they have 2000+ vehicles to work on, so let me ask you question who should do something about it, community or developers?
This is the answer im looking for.
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Well if that is the case then they should treat those reports more carefully.
For example recent incidents pissed many people because Gaijin simply refused all those reports, people who worked very hard and spent many times on that.
Neither do i, im just looking for alternatives or different appoaches and answers thats all.
These are actually pretty good news hopefully it will end up well for Leclerc.
Don’t give up hope boys, the challenger 2 is finally getting some attention after years of underperforming in every category, threads like this are the only reason it’s got any attention… But then again they did add a premium challenger 2.
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Dont worry, it’ll get better armour once we get a premium Leclerc just before the heat death of the universe.
I’m so excited.
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plot twist we won’t get a premium Leclerc but a premium LEO instead
Which makes me wonder the same thing.
Apperently Gaijin is buffing Merkava 4’s armor’ making turret and ufp armor immune to most of the shells, at least thats what i’ve been told.
İ wonder if this is pure coincidence or they decided to buff just to sell more upcoming new premium Merkava 3?
Dont be ridiculous, it will obviously be a light tank that would have been better in the TT and therefore, not result in any buffs to the Leclerc.
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Exactly