Whenever I play the Leclerc, I end up getting UFP’d by some premium. What sort of tricks do people use to increase the survivability of this (at least to me) absolute tincan of a vehicle? Or is it just this unarmoured, and the clue is to somehow use your mediocre (borderline abysmal) dart and upper mid range mobility to fight objectively better vehicles?
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The Devs believe Leclercs are light tanks for some reason. Even HSTV-L is more survivable than Leclercs.
At this point, they should at least give Leclerc the ability to scout lol.
So the actual answer is … don’t get hit. 🤷♂️
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The funny thing is that the Leclerc actually should get the scouting ability…
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Leclercs are not a bad vehicle. Until you play a Type 90 or Type 10 you’ll learn the right way to use it and why, even with little armor people still performs much better than other in those vehicles. Armor is there, can be useful, and turret armor is very inconsistent sometimes, it can take some hits or it can’t. Schrödinger’s armor.
I personally calls the survivability onion stupid, not because it’s a bad idea it’s because people itself don’t take it serious. Forget about armor, in War Thunder you should consider that you don’t have armor when facing most enemies, specially at higher battle ratings.
Even Merkavas which aren’t actively facing IEDs and portable anti-tank weapons (aka RPGs) in-game also is in danger, unfortunately people also forgot that we don’t have any kind of infantry yet to fight.
In the Leclercs’ situation, is: Don’t get hit, even though it’s subjective from which kind of opponent you’re facing and you can’t stop being acquired because Gaijin thought it was a good idea to make maps 250 m².
Firepower is key, mobility is decent and solid in most cases, gun handling is better than the Soviet crap at least and ammunition is usable, anything with more than 150 mm of penetration power can deal with any target, if that wasn’t the case HSTV-L would be at lower battle rating.
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If you got to the Leclerc that means you probably played the amx-30, 32 or 40, play it just like those.
@Константинович7 btw Merkava’s armor isn’t just supposed to stop RPGs and IEDs, Israel fought in the largest tank battles in the world since ww2 and designed their tanks based on those experiences, so their modern tank protection takes into account kinetic tank rounds too, just like any other modern mbt. Merkava’s excellent CE protection is just an excuse thrown around to justify Gaijin’s poor modelling of the tank’s armor.
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Merkavas never fought any major tank clash since World War Two, I would put my bets in the Asal Uttar or Chawinda battles which gives much more context and information and no Merkava were involved.
Fighting T-62s doesn’t means it can face with same ease other vehicles like Leopards, Abrams or T-80s for example, far from what I know, Merkavas never faced something that isn’t 20 to 30 years-old apart.
I know that Merkava has some issues regarding its armor, maybe because the information is unclear, throwing some numbers there won’t solve the issue and in most cases, specially in the Merkava 4’s cases it’s mostly classified. Just because the tank is sold as the most armored tank in the world ever made doesn’t means it can’t be stopped.
@Wifi-Soldier98 you just described a Battle Management System, which isn’t implemented in-game because War Thunder’s interface either isn’t ready or this feature is pointless for an arcade-ish game with few traces of ‘realism’.
The same applies to all the Merkavas as well.
Here’s hoping that when they add the Merkava Mk.4M Barak with Iron Vision, they include third-person thermals to simulate the system.
Even the CE is heavily nerfed
Tbh if the gonna fix the merks them m4m would allready be amazing so m4 barak would be op with better armor and aps
When german tanks experts states merkava is on par with leo and even more in therms of survivability well its kinda outrages its the second list armorerd vehicle in the game
Also idf said merkava can stand any anti tank munition in the region which includes apfsds like ke w
Do you have any source for these german experts ?
Stating or saying don’t proof anything, or is it another case of double standards and propaganda fallacy? There’s no honesty when talking about your own technology or will you openly say it’s weak in some sort of way?
Israeli Defence Forces can state anything from Merkava aswell their allies but they won’t give any proof because most components of the vehicle is classified for good reasons.
To be fair this talk about Merkava is off-topic when the real discussion should’ve been about ways to play Leclerc in-game.
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Idk where to find it tbh but irs a famous thing
I think someone sended it in one of the merks threads
Rlyyyy?
Well stuff like it doesnt stop gaijin from buffing russia
Double standard lol
And be sure when israel says it can do smt it can do it and even more
With that i agree but be fr we all know merks arent peper
U right its iff topic
I do think the leclerc and merks playstyle is pretty similar which us to outplay ur enemy with position and awearness cuz stats wise both arent great