…or Cobra King spam. Or Object 120 spam. Or Harrier spam. Or…
It’s always the same FOTM-pattern, and it’s only human that it exists.
And the chance is high that some new vehicle or tech is introduced in a game that offers a real or perceived advantage, so people of course flock to it.
But later as other vehicles catch up to that advantage and even overtake it, interest in those previously hyped vehicles ebbs down again.
Yeah, at the end of the day, it’s all just a marketing strat… Introduce them at low br’s and then up them - as done with all of them.
Making them either challenging to play, or not worthy at all - the Cobra King being a shell of what is used to be (still needs to go down to 5.0 atleast IMHO).
Same will happen with the BMPT premium, in a few patches, that thing will be nerfed to the ground to be never seen again (hopefully, i hate freaking hate countering them, they casually eat my DM63 from the side flat on).
It’s just a matter of time really. All these hyped lower- to midtier vehicles being ignored of favorite top tier 80€ premiums.
Yeah I don’t remember the last time I used that thing at its own BR. I bring it out to 6.7 matches and have thus far managed to do quite well in it even getting 3 nukes.
An exceptional case from 2017 xD
And like Schindibee said, common phenomenon among all sorts of new vehicles, specially Premium, as a whole.
when IS-6 spam was a thing, even King tiger easilly penetrated it to mask and driver’s. And even panzer IV could oneshot it to the cupolas. Because the game was different and ammo was a pixel.
Now ammo is volumetric, but explosions start from a pixel and penetration is still ridiculously simplified + APCR penetration is completely unrealistic (way too low, especially evident on 20mm Pzgr 40 and DM43).
Things have changed indeed, just not sure if for better.
damage is a huge factor
We probably need a mechanic that knocks out the crew, even when the armor isn‘t penetrated by the explosion.
Some sort of „certain destruction“ mechanic when a tank is hit by an enormous explosive amount.
If I knew it was KV-220, I wouldn’t have even tried. I’m already fed up with KV-1 tanking 250kg bombs like they are nothing, but this one…
I needed 3 passes with 3xMK103 full stealth belt to kill this thing, as 30mm AP-I has post pen of a boiled potato (still better than HVAP of course). I mean, getting showered with white phosphorous or whatever incendiary composition was inside is surely perfectly survivable and doesn’t impede operating the tank.
With Yak-9K I would have needed 1 well aimed shot. 2 in worst case.
Anyway, this simply shows that soviet survivability just hits different.
EDIT: if the explosion was modelled correctly, either bottom or top of the tank would get struck with blastwave. That’s beside the obvious fact no tank in existence would have not disintegrated after getting hit with 250kg of explosives point blank.
Even if it somehow did not just break the plate, essentialy most welds would have failed, engine would be dead, turret drive would be dead, fuel tanks would leak and crew would be heavily incapacitated or dead.
I mean, with shocks of this magnitude I wouldn’t even trust the ammo inside to not go off.
Heh, classic. Happends with the FAB-500 if you drop it innacurately near tiger 1
should have used the AP belt with APCRs. It at least penetrates armor
APCR is horrible vs angled armor and has worse post pen. API works way better in general. I only use APCR against aircraft.
And Tiger dies to 250kg bomb every time unless you drop it right in front and it somehow can’t get to the bottom of the tank. Which is rare.
KV-1 quite reliably ignores 250kg bombs.
KV-220 quite reliably ignores 500kg bombs.
So you can’t count on aircraft to remove this mobile bunker.
uh, not my experience. With both my He 219, Me 410 i use APCR. Pretty reliable agains everything but heavy targets, which also is the case with AP belt. Only with FW190 i use AP as it has less ammo and guns under wings, so i only pick cardboard targets.
nuh, also not my experience. With 250kg left under Thunderbolt, i never pick Tiger as it happends often enought it eats the bomb wth its tracks, as the KV on your vid.
And with 500kg or 1000-pounder, its enough to drop the bomb just in a meter radius of a tiger to make it unreliable.
sure is, tho last time i had a chance to drop the bomb on KV220 was like… summer previous year? so idk. It died to a 1000pnd pretty standartly with Tiger or IS-2
Well, enjoy being wrong on both accounts. API + your speed is better at angles, when stationary, it’s just as good at about 40 degrees already. Do-335 has plenty of speed. API reliably kills IS-2 no issue in a not so steep dive.
If you use 58mm pen shell only vs “cardboard” targets, “lol” is my answer.
77mm vs flat is nice, it might be better in a shallow dive vs T-34-85 and Sherman turret (but you need good angle anyway). But API shreds Shermans very well, and better post pen offsets the T-34-85 problem.
Vs most other targets you want to target top armor. In a non-vertical dive API is better.
When both can p,en - API is better.
Tiger dies to 250kg bombs reliably. 100kg bombs rip it apart unless they somehow hit in front without reaching the bottom armor.
I have not yet experienced surviving such a bomb in Tiger.
KV-220 Surviving 500kg bomb happened on literally my 1st 500kg bomb drop vs KV-220 after writing this and you have video evidence. And I haven’t dropped a bomb on KV-220 in years. I predicted this based off armor layout and what happens to KV-1 vs 250kg
Of course I was right.
uh, id enjoy, i have pretty good experience with those umu
with 60mils of pen? what a joke. you only can pen its roof armor, and i wouldnt risk hitting the ground for such shots with such aircrafts. If it was on 109`s belly then sure thng, but neither of the MK103 wielding aircrafts are good divers.
Instead, the APCR sideshots or 45* dives reliably crush everything you meet
It kills IS-2 reliably through the turret roof at not so steep dive. It does so very comfortably.
Way better post pen means it dies in relatively short burst HVAP sucks major a55 in this regard.
APCR reliably sideshots IS-2? ROFL, now you are delusional. Check penetration and IS-2 armor thickness.
I`d love to show you such screenshots, but its not rare enough to make me capture such and send to the cloud so i can further show them.
Never said that. I said that i use APCRs mainly for sideshots and 45* dives. Heavy tanks are just not the targets for such a small cannon with such a bad chassis
Ok, it doesn’t reliably sideshot angled targets. And people turn all the time and you have to fly low to hit that.
Roof is the better target.
At 45 degrees API has better pen if we factor plane’s speed, wchih should be in the 100-180m/s range.
And again - post pen is way better.
HVAP sucks vs IS series. And it would suck so much worse vs KV-220.
Luckily I had API.
tis not a sideshot if its angled gosh
uh. Yes? So…?
it has overall less pen, so even hitting sides of t-34 is useless with AP belt from 600m away. Idk whats so wrong with it you cant understand