I was correcting your mistake, not arguing on the topico.
Thrust vectoring?
Most AA missiles on a single platform?
R-73?
R-77-1? (which is around the same as 120)
9T /9K which terrorize lower br’s?
Kh-29TD?
stop the cap
F-16AJ is as real as swedish mi-28, a japanese pilot testflew F-16J, however in game its not modelled correctly, with the wrong nose and missing gear landing pylons among other stuff. But hey, we still have Yak-141 in game which received both IRST and Radar when it couldnt fit both at the same time, and it has weaponary that it never carried, so yeah.
Maus is pretty much real and is on display in some kind of a russian museum. E100 hulls did exist, they just didnt had an engine/turret to them, so gaijin just took those two things from the maus and put them in e100, and besides its a event vehicle.
and all of those vehicles were removed, they are not unobtainable, only maus is, but maus wasnt removed for being “fake”, it was removed because it was too hard to balance.
You put those two machines next to a missile that as for now, we know that only had few mockups with maybe a real seeker, and absolutely no official documentation that was event carried/testfired on a plane?
yeah cause vihr’s, ka-50’s etc are not fun (for the player playing them).
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oh, and comparing e100 which was added before gaijin had any strict rules about adding stuff to the game, and kh38mt which was added recently, quite a time after those rules were made, is ridiculous, not to add to that that you cannot get the tiger 105, panther 2, or coelian anymore, and e100 is so rare and expensive that i dont know if the number of them even breaks above 3 digits, with even war thunder partners having a hard time getting a testdrive for it.
Don’t care about it, useless in GRB
Don’t care about it, useless in GRB
Just a missile? Ok? Point?
Ok? So finally ru have missile on par with others?
Yeah, those are cool
Ok?
In short term: “How dare i enjoy different things than you” - no point in discussion
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1: “besides a missile, ru has nothing interesting on top tier”
2: “lists stuff that is exclusive to ru top tier which are very interesting to have/use”
1: “Don’t care about it, useless in GRB, Just a missile? Ok? Point?, In short term: “How dare i enjoy different things than you” - no point in discussion”
brother, did you forget what your statement is about
anyway yeah lets stop this discussion as this thread is about kh-38mt not about if russia has nothing unique
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Those things are not unique
Literally everybody have “cobra button” now.
kh29? Ok, cool, everybody else have mavs
R77? ok, cool, everybody else have aim120
14 missiles? - is having 2 more missiles really the reason to play RU? quoting Defyn: “that means you will die while having 6 missiles on your plne”
But you are right, back to the topic
KH38 is pretty much real and is on display in some kind of a russian display. KH38MT mockup exists, they just didnt had a missile and seeker together, so gaijin just took KH38ME missile, IR seeker and put them in KH38MT
same argument
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So the rocket that was once displayed at an exhibition more than 10 years ago to find sponsors is real?
its weird how submitting a bugreport requires us to find super reliable sources while gaijin never has to explain what they use as sources for vehicles and weapons. If gaijin actually wanted realism they would explain their sources so we could find our own or see if theirs are real and so we can better find sources that will change the game
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This. People don’t realize how much of the stuff in the game is simply made up by Gaijin without any sources or even educated guesses. Yet, they still ask for insane levels of proof for bug reports, which is okay for things like old WWII stuff, but for modern things where everything is classified, there should be some leeway for discussion because there is literally no information available. But no, you are not allowed to go against what Gaijin assumes is right, and you are not allowed to even know why…
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No you don’t. That mindset is just a youproblem. Without checking any stats im asuming US player which leaves after 1 death because “it’s over anyway”.
Where did you get the information that the US player leaves after the first death?
wild to me that people are trying to claim there isnt a reason to play russia if they lose the KH-38MT as if they didnt already have the best top tier line up with out that, not to mention the ML is right there if germany/italian/british players can make brimstones that are, slower, dont have IOG, and less range work with only a laser im sure 5-6 of the best AGM in the game will be easy
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It is literally your own argument
What makes russia the best lineup ?
You don’t use them the same way, using the ML you are a sitting duck.
T-80BVM is still one of the best tanks in game the T-90M is solid as well, the Pantsir is the best SPAA hands down, you can also have the 2S38 which is again one of the best light tanks in game.
Pair it with the KA-50/KA52 and Mi28NM being some of the best helicopters in game and then the most oppressive CAS yeah I would say the best top tier line up.
its easy they have a 20km range use that 8km safe zone where no other SPAA can touch you and you will be fine.
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They are good, but not “the best”
Yea, other nations have good AA as well, ITo, Type81, even everybody gets a strela nowdays.
Yea they are good, but again, other nations have very good f&f helis, which can deal with them easily.
If you take the 38MT away, they will fall into irrelevance once again. At least the SU34 would, SU30 would still be usable probably.
Yea, in a perfect world where no other planes exist. Launching an ML from that far out it takes the missile forever to reach the target and during that time one fox3 launch and you are done.
- Leopard 2s still exist
- Pantsir is only best spaa, but all spaa struggles regardless
- Spikehawk and Pars slingers exist
- Hstv-l exist
Also look, I’m all for nerfing cas. But SALH munitions for ru jets are limited by lack of tgp on the 25SM3 and 34
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And i am a firm believer that France is the best top tier nation at the moment.
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So are you saying the Strela should be 11.7? or are you saying that a 10.7 SPAA is good enough to fend off Su-30SMs firing 6x KH-38s from extreme range?
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