The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

the cannon was presumably tested, has ammo that is made, although i cant rlly find any documentation for it
the guns, ammo, real, shooting them? hard to find

eh maybe, maybe not, maybe you didnt look hard enough
but anyways 8.8k post, 0 proof of it exist, only newer brochures and mockups

It’s J2M5 gun.

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Key word is presumably

It means we dont have factual data for it

Oh i looked mate believe me, i was actuslly on the other side of the argument many moons ago justify why it should be in game.

the J2M5 Model 33, was developed with two 30 mm Type 5 cannons. This 30 mm version was designed to be a more powerful offensive weapon, but it never entered mass production due to war-related shortages.

Thats the wt wikki, ive yet to find a document stating they actively flew them outwith one trialed plane with next to no documents on

i will stand my ground

im lazy rn, so heres chat gpt respond

  1. U.S. Naval Technical Mission to Japan Reports (1946)
  • After Japan’s surrender, Allied technical teams examined captured weapons.
  • These reports often give approximate muzzle velocities, including ~770 m/s for the Type 5 cannon based on test samples and engineering analysis.
  1. Postwar Ballistics Reconstructions
  • René Francillon’s Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War and other technical historians like William Green and Shorzoe Abe list muzzle velocities in the 750–780 m/s range.
  • The cartridge case (30×122 mm) is longer and more powerful than that of the German MK 108 (which had only ~540 m/s), so a higher muzzle velocity is plausible.
  1. Design Intent
  • Japan designed the Type 5 cannon to intercept heavy bombers like the B-29, which required high muzzle velocity for better accuracy and penetration.

You do know that overly complex mathematic equation lies more often than not, stop being lazy and do the grunt work yourself (or if its in a language you dont speak get a insert language here goblin to do the work for you).

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what

I refuse!

Its for a start not allowed access to the wider net, only sources given to it by its maintainers or you which is an inherent source of bias (not a personal attack just a fact) and secondly LLMs like CNNs are basically really complex equations looking for patterns it thinks you want and weights them accordingly vs things It thinks you dont but end of the day its still math and cant comprehend concepts etc like humans so it will get stuff wrong constantly.

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the thing is that i would check whether or not is correct or not
i wouldnt go
hey you, give me about ABC and XYZ and stuff and then im done
i you give me ABC XYZ but give me sources, fact check it, compare to other sources, then i head to the sources myself to check for authors, bias, etc
and i would go on site like DTIC, or government official site to find it myself
since i have short attention span so i give it a document for it to analyze, then ask it is this actually what u took from the documents or you made it up base on the document, then it gives proof, i check then i go next
i wouldnt just ask it whatever and trust whatever it gives, im not that ignorant… Or am I?

Even telling it to only use a certain document it can and will make up lies. A great example is getting it to summarize something like Hamlet or Macbeth and then comparing its summary to the sparknotes summary. Either way while its fun to play around with using it for info hunting or god forbid academia in general is just asking to get crucified.

Either way this is getting hilariously off topic (Yes I know im to blame here) so lets get back to the topic at hand.

which… have u read what i said?

bro its not that serious bro u cant make it do shi like that, i mean even i dont understand fricking hamlet or macbeth for shi but i mean i get it

yes you, kh-38mt doesnt exist
this thread is getting dry, gotta get it to 10k somehow

Yes, we found a picture of it mounted on a plane but people keep moving their goalposts.

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Ask it for its references.

Then you have to read them, cross reference and ascertain their validity then use those sources as your source.

Thats how it works as a tool

what i usually did, 100% if its important

I hope not cause I said I would buy a bottle of champagne to toast this pile of useless whataboutism if it got that far.

you better ready to buy that bottle of champagne

Honestly I think people would still deny its existence if Putin personally invited them to ride shotgun in an Su-30 and blow something up on a test range. They would say that the missile that they fired was probably GNSS guided and that the IR image on the scope was much worse quality than russia reported and that the entire footage was probably fabricated by chatGPT outright.

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Wasted 8K post, L.

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As far as I can see, this thread is still just the 3 Russian Mains in Chief defending Kh-38MT as something Russia needs cus “balance” heh.

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