The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[simsimkek]

and the other one? with the green background

[MotorolaCRO]

That I don’t know.
This one is newer.

[Nowel]

@sudo_su1

And the travel distance is capped to 40km in the game, so it can’t reach a 40km target (even a 40km slant range target) with a curved trajectory …

still using the 40km as the distance is going to give you flase info, at 38000 which makes the fov distance of 40km(the game limit), and it takes longer than the 40km shot.

[ron_23]

a few things:

• they will not accept statsharrk for bug-reports
• the missile has a balistic path means we dont know the exact distance it traveled
• there is a newer brochure and i think gaijin always looks at the newer data in this case the brochure from 2024
• the brochurs are at best secondary sources and both state different things for max range

[simsimkek]

• Well if someone uses the same parameters in a test drive (i dont have access to the kh38 yet)and gives the same time to target it should be accepted
• we know the distance because the missile self destructs at 40km
• both brochures have similar average speed data, the main difference is the stated range
• There are no other sources in existence, so if Gaijin refuses them we can be sure they are just making stuff up

[MotorolaCRO]

@simsimkek

both brochures have similar average speed data, the main difference is the stated range

That different range changes a lot when it comes to the averages.

[_Fantom2451]

70km range is for newer GPS variant, 40km for older IOG only variant.

[ron_23]

@_Fantom2451

70km range is for newer GPS variant, 40km for older IOG only variant.

no it is stated for the kh-38mt

[simsimkek]

yeah… makes me have little confidence in making a bug report now, but Gaijin has accepted a report to increase the launch range to 70km, if that is implemented we can see how the missile behavior changes, until then i dont think a bug report will do anything

[_Fantom2451]

For Kh-38MT that has “Satellite” guidance included. Old Kh-38MT had no Satellite guidance, i.e. IOG isn’t enough for accurate shot beyond 40km.

[Nowel]

@ron_2303

no it is stated for the kh-38mt

they do say that this has “inertial +satelite+infrared self homing”

[sudo_su1]

@_Fantom2451

70km range is for newer GPS variant, 40km for older IOG only variant

I’ve seen no indication that there are older variants without GNSS and newer variants with GNSS

GNSS costs peanuts and is part of the base module …

And some sources stating:

“Range: Up to 70km
Warhead: Up to 250kg”

Is somewhat suspicious … Meaning the longer range might be with lighter than 250kg warheads.

[ileaveuptiers]

Plugging in the maximum values of both brochures, at no point does the graph even come close to averaging out to 400m/s even over 70km

[ron_23]

@simsimkek

if that is implemented we can see how the missile behavior changes, until then i dont think a bug report will do anything

there is also the posibilty that a dev will respond to say us the 40km are an engine limitation

[Nowel]

@ileaveuptiers

Plugging in the maximum values of both brochures, at no point does the graph even come close to averaging out to 400m/s even over 70km

it time outs at 40km

[simsimkek]

Dont hammers go up to like 60km?

[ron_23]

why is your start speed 1620 thats 20km/h over whats stated in the brochure

why do you have an launch angle of 50°?

also dont forget that the drag will drastically increase the lower it gets in altitude

[_Fantom2451]

[MotorolaCRO]

@simsimkek

but Gaijin has accepted a report to increase the launch range to 70km

I doubt they’re increasing the maximum in game range anytime soon. Our missiles have like 13km target lock range so 40km launches should be pretty rare to begin with.

[ileaveuptiers]

450m/s = 1620
Target locating angle is 50
(could be 60, it’s kinda blurry)