Difficult is different than impossible.
Flaring our current IRCCM missiles from certain angles is difficult but is much more doable than trying to do that to an IIR missile.
I was talking about it in a sense of ARB, but regardless of that it’s 9Ms aren’t a selling point neither in GRB nor ARB, and 15E hasn’t been added because of those for sure.
Meanwhile 38MT slingers, except 30SM, definitely have those AGMs as their focal point.
9M’s seeker can still get tricked consistently and people have been doing just that for months and months. I don’t know about you, but I’d definitely take an IIR version of AIM-9 with like M3.0 speed over 9M with M5.0 speed.
27ET can snipe people from 8-10-12km away without any warning which is something other IRs in the game like 9M can only dream of.
I already said that I don’t feel like those planes with only an Kh-59 would be sufficient for their BRs, nor it would be justified to remove what’s pretty much the whole reason they were added to the game.
Could slap 6 x brims on it with FnF and that would be enough to give it at least some standoff compared to the F15E and Rafale.
The only thing keeping the Ef2000 relevant at top tier GRB is the absolutely insane platform.
but rafale also cuts it close to the EF2000 so its not exactly fair that it gets 6 hammers, which i’ve seen folks state are over performing anyway!
Its just silly these platforms with weapon systems we barely understand, never mind are still mostly classified cruising about xD it should never have happened!
They weren’t added solely for KH38MTs but? where did anyone state that?
The su30 was added as its an iconic AF platform from the russians, same as the F15’s were added.
The issue is, why not drop them to the laser guided KH38MLs’ which we are certain did exist, comapred to the missiles htat cant even br proved to be real at all.
Its just so fking stupid at this pont
got brimstones sal only
got hammers doing mad shit
got unrpoven to exist Kh38s
fake F16s, countless jets in mid / low high tier that we are unsure if they even flew.
for what?
You’ll still have people complaining why the fake addition streak had to finish with vehicle Z, and why it didn’t finish with the vehicle Y they proposed a while back. You can’t really make everyone happy as you’ll never be able to erase what has been happening.
That might cause more harm than good in the long run because of balancing issues, be it something being too good or bad. This is further problematic since Gaijin refuses to give us more BRs.
If 2A4 could have fired DM23 I’m fine with it being the top round as long as the vehicle itself feels good to play at it’s BR.
Seems like Gaijin is fine with a degree of fiction being present in the game as long as it makes them some cash and honestly, from a business perspective, I can’t blame them.
From a purely player perspective, they could’ve done much more with the game, but well…
This is probably why they keep silent as getting people riled up even more isn’t something they want to do.
Those things should never been allowed to spawn in GRB in it’s current state.
6x FnFs + 12x Laser ones is really strong loadout on an already strong aircraft A2A wise.
SM3 without those is just an 25T.
SU-34 would be a pretty poor CAP that has access to TV guided missile.
30SM could definitely go through as a good addition due to improved ARHs it can carry, thus I never really expected it to keep good AGMs.
Yeah I did say that in another comment I think as well, always gonna be one group upset.
True, or it may actually fix a lot of issues, one of those Schrödinger ones isn’t it, you don’t really know until the box is open.
I take the 2a4 to 12.0 and its still capable with the DM23 round, so with Dm33 it easily could match up against the likes of 11.0s the mobility, optics and armour make it a right nice tank to use, its also not overtly large like the 2a5 and onwards get massive especially side on.
I mean if we went full realism most jets would be bricks compared to how they are ingame, all the air frames can pull what is it 1.5Gs x compared to IRl, so rather than stuck at 9G it can pull 12G .
I mean look how the community freaked when F16 was limited to 9G pulls…
Yeah agreed man, could be a lot of new game modes, or at least trialed modes, different vehicles etc, its taken that long to even get a SEAD mode.
Catch 22 again, stay silent and folks get irritable theres no response, give a response and folks get irritable cause its not what they want to hear.
Definitely not man, folks just want more and more modern nonense forgetting were still battling on tank maps that are like 10km squared too small.
No no, you don’t get both, If you take the 6 x FnF you are limited to that and say 2 GBUs or A2A ordenance, not slinging about 18 missiles over all cause the first 6 can devesate spaa then the 12 Lsaer guided would pick apart ground.
Does it not get the laser guided KH38s as well ?
Kh29Ts on a fast platform wouldn’t be too bad, like it wouldn’t crumple as much as now but 6 x KH29Ts still would do alright.
Generally Never knew it could carry as many as it can, thought it would be more a mig29 deal with it, 2 x AGM then the rest A2A.
True, seeing UFOs we have in the game pulling like 15Gs is a bit funny.
It’s obviously up to Gaijin’s discretion to do things like that and players don’t have much to say about it.
The constant race to pump out more modern stuff has led us to this cesspool we have today.
This would be an issue with some people as it’s known that EFT can carry 18x Brimstones.
I’m glad I don’t have to do decisions like that, as it’s obvious whatever you do will get some parts of the mob angry and winning is impossible.
Was talking about 38 family as a whole. Giving such a shit platform only 4 laser guided missiles isn’t something I’d do.
They are still TV missiles with 6km target lock range, forcing the plane to linger about for longer, which isn’t something brick like that wants to do.
stuff that came out like a year ago is now left in the past, while stuff like AA20 nords and older gear are left butchered xd
Yeah well the same people are bitching about no FnF, cant have both now that is just silly.
The Su34 could make do with them though to be fair, or su30, as well as that the KH29Ts are good enough in all fairness too in combination with 38MLs
They can be fired well over 6km but, you can fire them at static targets easily enough, I do use them on the su25BM or whatever the prem is and do quite well
30SM could live with those, no problem with that.
On SU-34 I’m not really for that happening as already explained. It’s like going from a high refresh rate monitor back to 60Hz one.
Absolutely gutting moment.
They can but firing with point lock instead of track lock is always risky, especially if you have like four missiles in total.
There’s plenty of planes at 11.3 - 11.7, I don’t think we need another one to join the gang.
