yeah… who knows maybe it might be off set with us getting the Skysabre, but knowing gaijin I can see us not even getting an SPAA until next again patch
I agree, helicopters and anything subsonic that’s flying just a couple of meters off the ground are going to get slaughtered. This is going to make FnF helicopters like the Eurocopters and Spike equipped ones quite meta, Vikhrs and Hellfires helis are going to struggle, big time.
But then again, it all depends on how Gaijin implements these systems, I just really hope they get their own dedicated spawns, like helis do, specially for the systems that have over 18 km range.
yea my 12.0 lineup for air is a FA2 harrier or T10 harrier so I can open a can of whoopass on a heli camper as long as I don’t see any Sukhois or pantsirs or strelas
Brimstone II/III as SAL only would be healthier for the game tbh. Would have the standoff capability to be viable in a post 5th gen IIR SAM game, but without the ripple fire capability that makes Kh-38MT and AASM so problematic.
Would be a nice competitor to the Kh-38ML if they added Brimstone II/III and removed Kh-38MT/AASM IR. Would mean all standoff munitions would now be IR, and all F&F munitions would need to get within range of (most) SAM systems at top tier.
Im honestly thinking end of the year maybe early next for us “Because Britain has gotten a lot of SPAA recently”
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Also, Gunjob I think has an internal report for IOG being massively buffed on all Brimstones
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yeah thats not happening we will continue to be punished for jumping from IIR to MMV while everyone else gets more advanced IIR munitions (im calling it now MMV will be heavily underwhelming on release)
The Supacat Raven was actually developed in large part to outrange and outmatch Ka-52’s irl, preventing them from acting as firebreaks, so its kind of funny that the game is (likely) getting the actual check to the Ka-52 more than 5 years after it was added…
Even then, probs not. These missiles are also F&F and are likely faster, so its possible they trade. If the SAM’s loft up they would also negate most cover.
Pretty sure we’re just gonna be crammed like sardines on these terrible 1x1km maps gaijin keeps putting at top tier.
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probably lmao
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Boy, I can’t wait for the patriot batteries and towed systems to take all the room in the tank spawns 🫠
if they dont remove kh38mt, maybe tk your teamate when see him play russia jet is last plan
We will be waiting quite a fucking while then. Hell, we could have been waiting for IR AGMs since apparently Russia is also incapable of manufacturing those too lmaoooo
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But it is better by a huge margin. The Delta V on the Kh38 MT is 3 times greater, the warhead is HE which is more reliable, has 3 times more explosive filler and has IOG. I would definitely say it’s 4 times better.
I do see your argument regarding other armaments it can carry along side the mavericks but how useful are they? JDAMS and GBUs are unreliable when spaa are in the sky. You could say the same about the UMPK but with the KH38s, you could eliminate all spaa in a short amount of time and drop it.
Until other nations get better agms or at th e very least, better “secondary” A2G munitions (like the stormbreaker), Russian cas will always be superior.
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you chose the one plane that can do that (and f15i but its a copy)
all others are limited to 6 mavs and 2 gbu at most
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The Su-27 series aircraft can’t use the Kh-25 missiles
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theres no evidence they can use Kh-38MT either
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Didn’t say they could, just saying they can’t us the Kh-25
I agree that the current Brimstone and SBD aren’t as good as the Kh-38MT? I did not say otherwise.
I merely stated that Gaijin probably thinks they are analogous, given the timing of their addition.
But it is better by a huge margin. The Delta V on the Kh38 MT is 3 times greater, the warhead is HE which is more reliable, has 3 times more explosive filler and has IOG. I would definitely say it’s 4 times better.
It being faster is definitely its biggest advantage. In the past I would have agreed about the warhead, but since the AGM-65 warheads were reworked I have found them to be consistent enough for my liking (the Kh-38 is better for multikills I suppose). I would put it at 1.5-2 times better.
I do see your argument regarding other armaments it can carry along side the mavericks but how useful are they?
It’s a quality versus quantity argument. Planes that carry AGM-65’s, generally speaking, will be able to carry a larger number of inferior PGM’s, whereas planed with Kh-38’s will have a smaller number of superior PGM’s. Which one is better is a matter of personal preference, but it’s worth noting.
Russian cas will always be superior.
French CAS is very close in performance at the moment. The only thing holding them back is their lack of light tanks for spotting. I agree other nations like an AASM/Kh-38MT equivalent though, and Gaijin should think of a way to rectify this.
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then the Su34 and Su30SM go with out, if they want a FnF missile that is IIR bring the Su25SM3 I would rather the Su34 and Su30SM have worse A2G loadouts then them having fictional loadouts
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