The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

now that is actually just cope lmao, is it that hard for you to use a laser guided weapon? is it to complex? I fully get it, its hard having to use 10% more brain power and actually need to risk something to get a kill

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I mean it just sarcastic there is no IR Brimstone it fake people know it but since Russian can get away with fake weapon why can’t other?

Not good enough. They need to be removed completely.

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“risk” bro it’s mach 2 with triple the range

we could just add SPEAR-3 to the EFTs would have the same range as the MT but as far as we know there might be an IR version

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there might’ve been at some point? that’s good enough now

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more risk then getting to launch them immediately and then returning to the airfield

definitely too hard for typical Russian pilot (like him) because all they ever do is pressing space bar for few times

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what do you mean I have to keep the pod lined up with the Target??!?!, actually doesn’t it have IOG? so you really don’t lol

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We really don’t need that for all its worth MT fake removal is enough but if MT need to be in the game?
definitely need spear 3

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Honestly this discussion has come to the same point the Abrams DU armor thread did. It’s clear nothing is going to change short term regardless of the evidence provided. At this point we’re just beating a dead horse.

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Gr4 can carry 3x AGMs + targeting pod + 6x Brimstones at 12.3.
SM3 can carry 4x 38MTs at 12.7 while also having much worse A2A ability.
SM3 without MTs would be straight up worse than Gr4.

SU-34 would have more than twice less ordnance while being worse at A2A, it’s clear who’s better there as well.

@Smugspite
They would have the same guidance method while carrying much less ordnance + other cons.

but unlike Abrams HU hull
Abrams don’t have HU hull in the game because not enough source (still it have more source provided by players than MT)
but KH-38MT is in the game that not even have a single hard source not even gaijin can prove that
Look like double standard sht to me.

i wonder if you have actually looked at their loadouts because you are either wrong due to not having actual knowledge at best or malicious at worse because the tornado can only carry 3 PGM 500 / 2000s and 3 brimstones not 6 so thats 6 whole A2G weapons, meanwhile the Su25SM3 gets 4 KH-38ML and 2 KH25MLs that you either didnt know about or conveniently forgot about so they have the same amount of A2G weapons, BUT the Su25 has the benifit of being able to kill multiple things in a pass with its laser guided weapons due to its own speed and the speed of its AGMs, if it lost its MT i would say its fair it dropped to 12.3 or 12.0 but by no means is it far worse then the tornado

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how he gonna get that knowledge he only fly Russian jet lol

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nothing new in terms of evidence

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You can’t get thing that not even exist
at this point it this topic is about trying to show gaijin hypocrisy to all players to see.

if he was gonna make a bad faith argument he could have tried a little harder in my opinion but oh well

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25ML doesn’t even have IOG so using those on such a platform is a death sentence at that BR.
You still didn’t write anything about much worse A2A ability, as that thing is a literal subsonic brick.

SM3 without MTs would be far worse than the Gr4.

Hey, you love to say false claim I can dodge missile with sub sonic right?
now I say do the same then.