The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

that doesn’t make sense though?
the seeker what make it different to the other missile .
the IIR what makes the MT.
while the ML is laser guided.

it’s the same as the like of Tiger 2 105. it’s the 105mm that make it, well, the Tiger 2 105.
if it’s carry the 88 it’s just the Tiger 2 H.

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They already have been

Only took them a decade.

Gaijin be like:
A Russian ATGM with only a mockup:
“let’s add this bitch and make it the best ATGM in the game”

IRIS-T SLS:

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Oh yes cant wait till we try and bug report the ASRAAM…How can the missile turn 35G fly at Mach 3.0+ and hit targets at 25-40km away…

LIES!

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nah they didnt actually pull that shit again, did they?

Yk what’s the funniest part?

Someone bug reported the range of the Kh-38 to be 70km and they accepted it lmao.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/r0d3amMJsXUs

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Then you do what we do for stuff like mig23s etc take the information from numerous tests, use the equations to calculate the flight perfomances.

Bish bash bosh.

We have no idea how the sub structure of thr plane in real life would of handled the guns.

You seem to he missing that part.

Kh29T seekers.exist, see no reason why they wouldn’t attempt to make a 38 with a tv seeker.

Look at what youre saying for kikka.

  • type 5 30mm cannons exists , but were never actually fitted.

  • kikka has them in game.

  • both kh38 exists and tv seekers, (while i dont agree with the magnification ofc) why cant it exist in game.

We know theres brochures and as you said it fills its intended role

The hypocrisy is a bit stupid, you cant demand the removal of just one bit of kit.

They made an f16 appear from thin air.
Spaas.
They have made a historical brimstones appear from thin air.
They made the r2ys appear from thin air…
The fact is TV seekers exist, kH38 missiles exist, as well ss the advertising of them.
The intended to sell them

do you have a link for the IRIS-T thread by any chance? Becaus that double standard is funny as fuck

gimmie a sec i gotta finis this game real quick

I think it’s an edited screenshot from this report

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uM50xadDrBYA

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Got proof for that mate.
Cause as far as ive seen it never made it off the drawing board

As a test bed with no munitions and armerments fitted.

You have any evidence of the kikka functioning with weapons, and munitions.
No, you dont.

You have intended purposes much like the kh38mt.

As well as this i cant respond to the F16AJ response as it wont let me quote the photo.

The thing never should of been added, regardless

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yeah i know that one which is why i was a bit confused but looking back at it i should have seen its edited lol

its here

i know this is not my discussion but maybe we should have different standards regarding information between tanks and planes from WW2 and a missile thats supposed to be in production since the 2010s?

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RE the kikka - just because it could use an existing gun doesn’t really change anything. There are several well documented examples of guns which worked perfectly fine on one aircraft causing severe issues when mounted on another aircraft.

A couple of examples are the Vulcan causing flameout issues on the f-104, and icing issues with mustangs and their .50s which didn’t occur on the p-47.

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Agreed a lot of documents were destroyed by the axis before they could be siezed and there was not many photographs taken.
But for the Ostwind 2 even gaijin indirectly admits its a paper tank:
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true but i think the ostwind 2 is actually a pretty good example of the kind of paper stuff thats fine in my opinion. Its not game breaking, its old, it fills a gap in the tech tree and its plausible. The KH-38MT is at best only plausible

Well Kh-38 is modilar platform it’s the same missile with different guidance modules saying that missile is unexistant is technically incorrect.

Fair point
But I disagree since this opens up the floodgates to even more paper designs and we end up in World of Tanks territory.
Even though I’d really like to have the Panther2 and Tiger2 105 I’m still kinda against them being added back.