Because apparently, a plane that existed and flew is just the same as an AGM that was never built.
i said leading edge not wing
Those are very, VERY different things and are not comparable at all in terms of flight behavior.
yeah and they also have completly different lift coefficents ingame
i dont dissagree with you, iam just saying that it is close enough to get a baseline
I am disagreeing and saying it’s not close enough for a baseline. In terms of basic features it’s much closer to a Su-9 or He-280.
Neither. You go and test it for yourself with correct test and controls as is good practice.
You dont get what I mean, the kikka wasn’t flown with the weight of the cannons mounted, we have no idea how it could affect the infrastructure of the plane.
considering the TV guided heads exist, and hte missiles, why couldn’t it have.
Creative liberties mind you mate.
Again but, another creative liberty from gaijin in wence they change something to suit them.
No, it would be comparable to the kikka if we could prove it was actually created. the kikka never mounted guns, nor even dropped a bomb for testing.
we do not have clue what its actual performance was.
As was stated.
The comparisson was to be as silly as saying the ME262 and Kikka were the same flight performance wise ,just nonsense.
How? how is it xD ostwind II for a start.
KIKKA.
we lost the R2Y’s
F16AJ
Ho ri’s
chinese model T34 as we hav eno idea or record of them using one with a 76mm gun
and thats just some off me head.
Then calculate it, use the weight as if it has cannons with ammo mounted, and fuel for an extended flight too. to work into its entire flight charactaristics.
Again i was refering to real life. so the in game flight charactaristics aren’t my concern, but fair enough
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No, it actually worked fairly well. The problem was the media didn’t realize that, so they took the M247 locking on to the outhouse fan (because the radar return will look broadly similar to the radar return of a helicopter’s blades) as evidence the tank was a failure. The only failure of the M247 was the fact that it’s too slow to keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2/M3 Bradley.
Reporters went and then took all the “failures” to press to generate outrage and fuel further controversies as those make lots of money for the media.
The M247 was actually very good at its job. It was just put in front of people who didn’t understand that. (Also didn’t help that the radar was so sensitive a small hand fan would set the automatic tracking off)
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You cant claim it was never built, its been mentioned on brochures and what not.
You are acting like the kikka which is extremely leniant to be in game, should be ingame, while stuff like the Kh38 MT gets removed.
You can’t have one and not hte other.
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that is totally irrelevant for calculating the lift a surface / wing produces
the lift is totally independent from the weight and is soley are result of the shape of the lifting surface
When a fluid flows around an object, the fluid exerts a force on the object. Lift is the component of this force that is perpendicular to the oncoming flow direction.[1] It contrasts with the drag force, which is the component of the force parallel to the flow direction. Lift conventionally acts in an upward direction in order to counter the force of gravity, but it is defined to act perpendicular to the flow and therefore can act in any direction.
No, it doesn’t. It means the same exact thing. You read it wrong the first time if you think it means something different.
And Vickers Mk7 didn’t fire L26, and FV4202 didn’t fire the APDS round.
@An_Pigeon
No unfinished prototypes should be removed.
Im talking about its overall flight charactaristics.
the more weight it has, the worse itll fly
I believe even you can see why this is not possible with pretty much ANY aircraft in-game.
Installing a counterweight or adding another fuel tank is really not that complicated. Our Kikka is a little heavier than it was IRL, this should allow enough weight for the guns.
For the Kh-38 there are no TV seekers.
“Creative liberties” don’t make seekers appear from thin air.
The Kikka was created and obviously was good enough at being an airplane to take flight on the first try and remain very stable.
Unlike a certain other plane…
And unlike a certain AGM which has never taken flight.
Ostwind 2 existed.
Kikka is very real.
Which were indeed paper projects, a lot like the Kh-38MT.
As with the R2Y2s, they’ll likely be removed shortly after the Thai ground subtree shows up.
So you can find a picture of a real, functional Kh-38MT like I can with the Kikka? Well why didn’t you say so! Just post it.
One is real and flew. The other only exists on paper.
Ammunition is completely different to vehicles themselves.
Both of those tanks could fire both those rounds.
Kh-38MA
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The question stands for it’s homing device not missile it self.
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that doesn’t make sense though?
the seeker what make it different to the other missile .
the IIR what makes the MT.
while the ML is laser guided.
it’s the same as the like of Tiger 2 105. it’s the 105mm that make it, well, the Tiger 2 105.
if it’s carry the 88 it’s just the Tiger 2 H.
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They already have been
Only took them a decade.
