As far as I can see, this thread is still just the 3 Russian Mains in Chief defending Kh-38MT as something Russia needs cus “balance” heh.
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What is certainly possible to say is that the quoted specs of 270mK sensitivity and 4 kelvin’s worth of contrast required to lock on are far worse than what is portrayed in game.
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Love how there still hasn’t been any definitive proof that someone could say “Yup that’s a KH-38MT.”
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how does it compare to ingame
which plays in to the likely way the seeker works irl, similar to stormshadows IR guidance phase and hamemrs.
Nope.
The Brochure specifically stated contrast, If it were using correlation techniques (as with the Hammer with Correlation, IR-TERCOM is used by the Storm Shadow and is something else) it would be able to function without target background contrast and attack a zero contrast target, which is obviously not the case.
So it should be a very shit maverick. it’s seeker is about a magnitude less sensitive. All it would really be suitable is as an Anti-Ship missile or very large & hot facilities (e.g. power station).
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Thanks for the enlightenment. Seems my crack theory of it being a replacement for the early KH-59 variants might be true after all.
The resolution of the sensor itself is fine (assumedly, though as to what exactly is being used to set the resolution I don’t know), the thing is that it should have nowhere near the level of detail nor lock on range it does currently, especially for smaller targets.
Pretty much. When presented with a more balanced alternative and br adjustments, they will do anything in their power to dodge the question.
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*we found a picture of something mounted to a plane that we can’t verify it’s a 38MT.
I assume that brochure wouldn’t be enough for a bug report.
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They’re not selling anything at the airshow itself. Be real. Its a showcase of what they could make and how it could look if it were real.
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yeah we sell them at supermarkets lol, bro you really thought you did something there lmao.
it still is
if you check wayback machine it hasnt been updated in at least like 10 years where in the same timeframe the RU version was updated to removed mention of 38MT hence the EN version is by definition out of date
can you make a bug report?
if they arent gonna remove the fake missile they might as well make it match the made up stats for the seeker
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I dont know how many times I need to tell yall you can have two forks of the same website in two languages be valid for two separate audiences. RU website is for internal use, EN for external which is now even more clear since we have promo material in English from zhuhai 2024. If what you say is true then the zhuhai brochure should either be in russian or chinese but its neither.
Not something that would be as simple as document says X, in game is Y, please bring elements into alignment, with Thermal generations.
It would have to be a little more detailed and contrast specs of other seekers against Brochure claims, since we don’t actually know what it uses as the detection array, other than whatever they are using as the material, for cooling, and Targeting constraints are very much sub-par. Even in comparison to decades older Russian Electro-Optical offerings.
And anyway it might well be refused on the grounds of gameplay convention that All IIR ordnance uses data based on the AGM-65D’s WGU-10/B. Anyway, rendering all this moot.
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The issue is that Thermal qualities are based on a tiered approach based on arbitrary Array size of the detector nothing to actually do with the performance of the seeker itself.
The way a Russian CAS mind pretty much summarised to “us vs them” mentality when they got Gaijin to produce one of the worst offenders of WUNDERWAFFE and an overperforming crutch when other nation is stuck with abysmal dogshit (R-77-1 and AMRAAM A-B) in big 2025 is clearly an interesting hook to wider psychological research to how a supporter of an aggressor in a trust-based society works.
Arrange that “flight with Putin to fire 38MT and get a direct view on how the seeker works, how the image quality present itself in the MFD, differences of MT seeker and other older IR ATGM seeker, and it’s actual flight performance, hit rate and failure rate in a perfect weather condition” if you think you are so correct to begin with.
I’m waiting for that Invitation. Go.
(WE ARE OFFICIALY AT 8K POST)
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We already were earlier, and he does have half a point. There are some people in this thread who jump on the barest crumb of speculation to say it doesn’t exist and will refuse to entertain anything short of the damn thing falling through their roof before even beginning to entertain the thought they may be wrong. And yes the inverse is also true, and the worst part is both of that kind of commenter doesn’t even bring anything new or interesting to the table just the same bunk again and again.
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what Im hearing is Typhoon AGM here we come lol