The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[ron_23]

There you have his response:

@Gunjob

Images from the brochure look like there were taken with Adobe Scan, which is why it has the brightening effect on the white areas.

No brightening effect;

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Brightening;

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So the document won’t be an original photo, and that’s not a great tact to take.

@Gunjob

Yeah I wouldn’t pursue the image being faked, as the photos aren’t original as the brightening effect alters them but makes the text much more readable and fixes issues with lighting/reflectivity of the pages.

With all the evidence presented I’m confident in the weapon existing in some form now, and at the very least there is now enough evidence for it to be in game.

[H_ngma]

The US AtG missile actually existed tho…

[_Ladies_Man_217]

Which got nerfed later, we haven’t seen a single nerf to the KH38MT at all.

[ron_23]

do you see a missile on those pylons, because i do

[sudo_su1]

TBF that seems to be a Su-34

I’m yet to see any evidence for Su-30SM carrying Kh-38 or TGP

[H_ngma]

yes theres “a” missile on that Pylon which is the whole point of this thread

[MrBombastic8]

tbf
give it more drag coefficient to make it closer to avg cruise speed
gen 2 thermal and 15x zoom(which is still better than 65D btw)
limit 4 on su-34(brochure mockups) and 0 kh-38 at all on su-30sm(since there isnt any proof of it, even 38ML)
then i think its good enough

[ron_23]

@sudo_su1

TBF that seems to be a Su-34

it is a su34 you can see that by looking at the landing gear

the point was that the missile is not fake

[_Fantom2451]

For 30SM they are made up with t220 partially confirmed by gaijin to be fake, as well as kh38 on 25sm3, that is obvious part

[ron_23]

it is a kh-38mt we already went through that a few times

@Gunjob

Yeah I wouldn’t pursue the image being faked, as the photos aren’t original as the brightening effect alters them but makes the text much more readable and fixes issues with lighting/reflectivity of the pages.

With all the evidence presented I’m confident in the weapon existing in some form now, and at the very least there is now enough evidence for it to be in game.

[MrBombastic8]

i still believe its a mockups because they wouldnt reveal it publicly

[_Fantom2451]

Have you seen publicly non mockup newest Kh-59 variants used by Su-57?

[ItsGaryy]

Okay, is it functional? Why isn’t it mentioned on their site anymore? What more do you have other than a brochure image showing it only mounted. That doesn’t prove that its functioning.

[ron_23]

wasnt there that one consultant that hated chinese vehicles and witheld some documents so they are worse ingame

[Zannafrancy12]

@MotorolaCRO

I was just pointing at the fact how even more urgent bugs took a long time to be fixed, so this one getting stretched this long isn’t something unusual.

Armen Lozone:

you do realize its literally just a matter of removing the missile trail right? aim9m NEVER had a single problem of its smoke trail appearing, the chaparral was clearly on purpose.

and this conversation is offtopic now its pointless to continue it.

[Zannafrancy12]

there was a tech mod, he got removed.

[ron_23]

we have range, speed and stats on the thermal imager

and you wont get some of them without having a functional seeker

[sudo_su1]

@ron_2303

the point was that the missile is not fake

Yes, but given how they require proof of carriage for other planes (and not just any missile, but actual live missiles; E.g. in the case of A-10C and triple AGM-65 next to the TGP), automatically giving them to every new top tier Russian plane without any proof is somewhat unjustified …

[ItsGaryy]

Is the seeker unique to this platform? Never been used on any existing platform?

[Zannafrancy12]

not close to enough evidence.