The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[ron_23]

original image

in the same brochure they also tell some details on the seeker itself

[PercussionCap]

@ron_2303

a mock up that needs safty pins for the launch rails so it isnt accidentally fired on the ground?

Mandatory procedure.

[ron_23]

sure

it is funny how you ppl go from saying the russian army is the most unogranized ever to saying they always follow procedure

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@ron_2303

sure

@simsimkek

No AIM-152 variant was actually built and tested yet we have these pictures:

This AIM-152 mockup also has a safety pin and yet we know for sure it’s nonfunctional.

[ron_23]

well in the same brochure there is data on the seeker you wouldnt have without having a seeker

but it is pointless arguing with you because you will dismiss this anyway

[Armen_Lozone]

Idk man the one that we see mounted doesn’t seem to have a smooth and white seeker body like this one

[ron_23]

both missiles look differently “rough” i think instead of saying they build weirdly shaped missiles, it is the refelection of the sun, as it also lines up with the shadow the su-34 throws on the ground

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@ron_2303

well in the same brochure there is data on the seeker you wouldnt have without having a seeker

The initial brochure showed hit probabilities for the 38MT despite it not existing.

[ron_23]

Yeah,
they probably just made the seeker sensitivity and contrast up

Values you would not be able to get without the seeker

[ItsOnyy]

Uh? My man there is nothing in that green circle, it’s literally the edge of the missile glass. You will never be able to discern any features of the seeker from that far away lmao.

[ron_23]

I didn’t make the comparison picture I was just too lazy to scroll up and find the actual picture of the Kh38mt at the maks expo

[Armen_Lozone]

Thats… not at all what i meant.
Its what apparently looks like bare unpainted metal around the seeker-head that throws me off of declaring this a real MT picture

Maybe its one of these

[ron_23]

the 38mt has a bare metal ring around the seeker, it isnt as wide as the one on the 38ml tho

[Armen_Lozone]

Yes thats what im trying to say too.
The image with the missile mounted also seems to have a larger bare unpainted metal ring as well as a smaller ring.

Either that or its a whole different seeker-head photoshopped onto it since the larger ring extends all the way to the mounting rails start

Yeah kinda looks like a photoshop

[HondaCivici]

@MotorolaCRO

I already said that I don’t feel like those planes with only an Kh-59 would be sufficient for their BRs, nor it would be justified to remove what’s pretty much the whole reason they were added to the game.

Explain why it isn’t sufficient. Saying that you feel like it isn’t sufficient doesn’t hold any weight lmao.

[ItsOnyy]

Also the tail of the one of the right has a weird shape, it looks like it’s bent somehow.

[ileaveuptiers]

Where did Gaijin get it’s 750 M/S if it’s clearly showing 350-400M/S in the brochure?

[PercussionCap]

Good question lol. Even in the “new” brochure with seeker details it’s at ~380m/s.

[ileaveuptiers]

Basically all the Russian AGMs are overperforming lol

[HOMINUSNOCTURNO-live]

@AlvisWisla

The Kh-38MT program existed/exists, that much is true.
So with that proof, I’d like to see proof of cancellation OR proof of production.

When something exists as a program it’s easier to prove it doesn’t exist as there is always at least one document telling an R&D team to halt a project, to cancel a project.
Or a production unit to halt production.

So on and so forth.
If there is no document that proves production, there is a document that proves cancellation.

@Beeschurger
I have no photo, I never had a photo…

So unless YOU have a photo of Kh-38MT, don’t go speaking on behalf of others.
Post your photo of Kh-38MT, or drop the nonsense and read everyones’ posts

Where’s the proof? Other than some propaganda photos in a brochure? Lol the KH25ML sure theres proof of those. Its hard to believe anything from Russia considering its mostly propaganda at this point. Su57, Hypersonics etc etc