Gaijin also added a far more powerful fighter with AESA at top tier (Rafailure) and because that wasn’t enough, they then added another AESA-equipped fighter at 13.0, which ALSO has ARH missiles - all a single BR step higher than the F-16AJ.
So frankly, gaijin is full of shit and if the F-2 doesn’t have the Eye of Sauron radar capable of tracking an entire team with impossible notching when added, I don’t see what was the point of waiting this long and it will drive yet another nail in the coffin for their credibility.
Completely irrelevant. But for the record, it has happened before.
It’s a long list to go through before we reach the Kikka, and we don’t even know if it actually never mounted the guns as many documents were disposed of, and aircraft scrapped by the US or destroyed to prevent capture by the japanese. 80 years is a pretty long time.
It’s not like a Kikka-with-guns mockup was presented at a defense expo less than 10 years ago with the manufacturer still existing and selling a model of the Kikka, albeit without those guns and every mention of the Kikka-with-guns being scrubbed from their russian website. Wow, sounds familiar doesn’t it?
I’m well aware, and that is exactly what I’m saying. To justify waiting this long - until AFTER the Rafale and EFT and who knows what else have been added, under the justification that “it would have been too strong” - the F-2 would need an incredibly strong and unrealistically good radar to make this wait make sense.
Because at this point even a cracked FM (that it won’t have LOL) isn’t that relevant anymore since at top tier you’ll get the vast majority of your kills from very far away with missiles. Missiles that it also can’t carry that many of, and it doesn’t have a HMD either!.
At most it can carry 8x AAM-4s, but it’s never been pictured with this loadout and I believe we only know this because the pylons in question have the labels and connection points for AAM-4s as well.
The most it’s been seen with is 4x AAM-4s and 4x AAM-3s and that is likely what we’re getting. And you KNOW that thing is going straight to 14.0 and it’s not moving down ever.
So again, why has it taken this long for the F-2 to be added when even with the most generous loadouts possible, it’s still completely sidelined by aircraft added 1-4 major updates ago?
Gaijin just did a massive mistake with the AESA of the Rafale. IMO they didn’t even wanted to add AESA get. Also i don’t even think gaijin will go down the Rabbit hole of AESA GaAs/GaN and T/M count.
if they do it based on generation, they can use rough estimate of T/R modules to scale power and range. Rafale’s RBE2 and the Kfir’s radar should be among the absolute weakest
Well stinger FIM-92K had a better IR lock range than Strela when it was added but i don’t think that you will say that Stinger is better than Strela even back then and to carry 8 iglas on Mi-35M you need to drop 16 ATGM missiles which is a big sacrifice for 9.8 G AA missile
It’s not irrelevant as that’s literally your argument.
City car with a 600HP engine installed is actually less of a Frankenstein vehicle than our Kikka.
Until evidence is found, Kikka will remain as a Frankenstein vehicle that goes hand in hand with 38MT.
Is 38M with an IR seeker a work of fiction ? Maybe.
Is Kikka with guns a work of fiction ? Maybe.
Did all four entities in the example above exist ? Yes.
Both things in their listed configuration aren’t proven to be real, so they belong in the same basket.
But that’s the premise of Kikka still being in the game, which opens the door for other similar abominations to get added.
I think we have a more interesting game if we don’t stick so narrowly to such a banal definition of realism.
It’s already causing problems where there are post-cold war technology gaps.
The only solution is to scour the Internet for proposals, napkins, designs etc and conform them to the mechanical and modelling realism of the game.
As it stands, Kh-38MT may be a good example because it is only referred to on paper and no genuine copy has been certified to exist. However, nobody informed would consider it impossible to exist.
I think that’s a much better standard than is the case for most equipment.
The issue is with the Kh38MT is if we can’t prove its real or not it really shouldn’t of been added to the game.
Genuinely something that buggers me off TBH, like the Shir 2 getting L23, a round that the tank never fired at all.
Or the F16AJ
Leopard 2a4’s not getting hteir historic DM33 (at the very least) capabilities. etc etc etc
the games mix and match response to “balance” is just stupid at this point, KH38’s aren’t dominating entire lobbies like folks want you to think, I’ve played nearly exclusively top tier the past week and a half and seen F15’s or Rafales rinse lobbies more then Su30’s or Su34s.
(caveat I actually have shot down more SU30s in my J8B than anyother plane so it just goes to show, the pilots aren’t very smart and its easily countered if someone spawns a plane)
I do believe KH38MT should be removed until we get some proof of existence, much like F16AJ should be long gone by now.
Fun fact, we don’t actively need these leopard duplicates at all.
Their excuse for putting a prem one in france was laughably weak and easily countered.
They didn’t need to put hungry in to Italy at all, could of put spain in there and it would of kept with Italies current tanks as is, not randomly soviet stuff jammed in there.
France could of gotten more of its own indigenious tanks, E.G stuff like amx30C, the countless light tanks and other forms of tanks its buggered around with.
Before just crammin a leopard 2a4,a5 and A6 in there.
Yeah that can of worms has been opened a while ago and closing it is problematic.
It would surely receive that if needed, but I think Gaijin is happy where 2A4s sit at the moment.
We can talk about shoulds and shouldn’ts, but at the end of the day it’s Gaijin that ultimately decided to add fakes and it’s their decision to keep or remove them.
We are already at the gates where Gaijin has to decide to either stop adding new things or to guesstimate values due to them being confidential. To some people, doing that to vehicles is already making them fake.
Not really! I’ll say again on the comment that was removed, they could easily stop this , state it’s went to far and rectify it, they don’t have to actively do that much.
Remove F16AJ.
Remove/Add ammunitions that weren’t or were used by vehicles and then reduce or increase BR to compensate.
Tehy just dont want to resolve the issue.
Look at the mig29 at 12.7, it shouldn’t have the R27ERs and should have R73s, yet it sits their with a random A historical loadout.
Realistically it should have it, especially now if theyre claiming theyre going to add a prototype leclerc to france, which will be sittin on its own at a random BR
Gotta say, I’d rather we stopped before getting slammed with rafales, F15s, EF2000s etc and went back to the absolute plethora of coldwar gear thats missing.
think the biggest issue here now is the complete silence on their part TBH; whatever they say though is gonna get a blowback from one group or another.
Like if they say tis fine in game to balance Su34 etc, there will be a load of people cry its in the game etc etc
if they say they’ll remove it then a bunch of folks will cry its bein gremoved then demand more be removed.
As you well know, i personally believe all these platforms at top tier are just too much for GRB, rafale, su30,F15, etc etc, hell even F16C was absolutely stompin before they added these even more modern platforms.
it would only be able to be taken on the AIM-9 rails so it would be at max 6 maybe 8 if gaijin is willing to give the triple mounts where the dual mounts go and would take up the slots of your IR AAM so you wouldnt get 18 of them
The Harrier on the other hand could get 12-14 of them cant remember lol
Difficult is different than impossible.
Flaring our current IRCCM missiles from certain angles is difficult but is much more doable than trying to do that to an IIR missile.
I was talking about it in a sense of ARB, but regardless of that it’s 9Ms aren’t a selling point neither in GRB nor ARB, and 15E hasn’t been added because of those for sure.
Meanwhile 38MT slingers, except 30SM, definitely have those AGMs as their focal point.
9M’s seeker can still get tricked consistently and people have been doing just that for months and months. I don’t know about you, but I’d definitely take an IIR version of AIM-9 with like M3.0 speed over 9M with M5.0 speed.
27ET can snipe people from 8-10-12km away without any warning which is something other IRs in the game like 9M can only dream of.
I already said that I don’t feel like those planes with only an Kh-59 would be sufficient for their BRs, nor it would be justified to remove what’s pretty much the whole reason they were added to the game.
Could slap 6 x brims on it with FnF and that would be enough to give it at least some standoff compared to the F15E and Rafale.
The only thing keeping the Ef2000 relevant at top tier GRB is the absolutely insane platform.
but rafale also cuts it close to the EF2000 so its not exactly fair that it gets 6 hammers, which i’ve seen folks state are over performing anyway!
Its just silly these platforms with weapon systems we barely understand, never mind are still mostly classified cruising about xD it should never have happened!
