Hell no, I believe UK deserves to have Arjun.
Jokes aside, I don’t really want yet another copy paste tree so I’m against that.
There’s nothing really to argue here, I’m just stating facts.
Maybe Gaijin would stop entertaining the fakes if everything had received this much interest.
Almost 7K replies, and yet no concrete evidence that this missile was nothing more than just a concept mockup.
Perhaps we need a “other” tree, could have stuff from India, South Korea, maybe North Korea etc. would need another name though obviously. Would be a great place for funky event and battle pass vehicles.
This is motivated by my wanting the k2 pretty badly. Like, really badly.
You just proved my point, pylons 3, 4, 5, & 6 should pivot with gun pods on to 45 degrees and they don’t. I’m not talking about the 1, 2, 7, & 8. I know they’re fixed.
Also didn’t address the missing ability to put AIM-9’s and gunpod in the weapons bay at the same time.
Nope. They already did by swapping the S-13DF liquid explosive rocket out for the OF version.
The liquid explosive rocket was FAR MORE of a problem than the IR agm ever was, because you could first spawn the Mi-28NM or the Ka-52 and win the game by flying multiple helicopters loaded with one shot rockets, launching them from long range with the ballistic computer, also the DF rockets would fuse your spaa rocket (was possible to do that with SKO too) denying you from literally even shooting them down lmao.
That was game breaking, along with Ka-50’s first spawn with atgms back around its release, so, given that this is not game breaking, I think devs won’t need to take action, not even if you proved that something didn’t exist, or was made only into a mockup.
it’s very difficult to do so when it’s against a kh38. It’s a different story when it’s a hammer or a pgm.
lol no, it’s BVR is not it’s selling point in GRB. Stop pretending it is. The selling point of the F-15E is it’s high quantity (not quality) A2G ordinances.
the IRCCM is much weaker on the 27ET than the 9m.
My brother, you still haven’t explain in depth on why you think
is wrong. Stop dodging the question.
Gaijin also added a far more powerful fighter with AESA at top tier (Rafailure) and because that wasn’t enough, they then added another AESA-equipped fighter at 13.0, which ALSO has ARH missiles - all a single BR step higher than the F-16AJ.
So frankly, gaijin is full of shit and if the F-2 doesn’t have the Eye of Sauron radar capable of tracking an entire team with impossible notching when added, I don’t see what was the point of waiting this long and it will drive yet another nail in the coffin for their credibility.
Completely irrelevant. But for the record, it has happened before.
It’s a long list to go through before we reach the Kikka, and we don’t even know if it actually never mounted the guns as many documents were disposed of, and aircraft scrapped by the US or destroyed to prevent capture by the japanese. 80 years is a pretty long time.
It’s not like a Kikka-with-guns mockup was presented at a defense expo less than 10 years ago with the manufacturer still existing and selling a model of the Kikka, albeit without those guns and every mention of the Kikka-with-guns being scrubbed from their russian website. Wow, sounds familiar doesn’t it?
Also not what I claimed.
Bro Stop. The F2 AESA is not even that good.
I’m well aware, and that is exactly what I’m saying. To justify waiting this long - until AFTER the Rafale and EFT and who knows what else have been added, under the justification that “it would have been too strong” - the F-2 would need an incredibly strong and unrealistically good radar to make this wait make sense.
Because at this point even a cracked FM (that it won’t have LOL) isn’t that relevant anymore since at top tier you’ll get the vast majority of your kills from very far away with missiles. Missiles that it also can’t carry that many of, and it doesn’t have a HMD either!.
At most it can carry 8x AAM-4s, but it’s never been pictured with this loadout and I believe we only know this because the pylons in question have the labels and connection points for AAM-4s as well.
The most it’s been seen with is 4x AAM-4s and 4x AAM-3s and that is likely what we’re getting. And you KNOW that thing is going straight to 14.0 and it’s not moving down ever.
So again, why has it taken this long for the F-2 to be added when even with the most generous loadouts possible, it’s still completely sidelined by aircraft added 1-4 major updates ago?
Gaijin just did a massive mistake with the AESA of the Rafale. IMO they didn’t even wanted to add AESA get. Also i don’t even think gaijin will go down the Rabbit hole of AESA GaAs/GaN and T/M count.
if they do it based on generation, they can use rough estimate of T/R modules to scale power and range. Rafale’s RBE2 and the Kfir’s radar should be among the absolute weakest
over 7600 if you count deleted replies
Well stinger FIM-92K had a better IR lock range than Strela when it was added but i don’t think that you will say that Stinger is better than Strela even back then and to carry 8 iglas on Mi-35M you need to drop 16 ATGM missiles which is a big sacrifice for 9.8 G AA missile
It’s not irrelevant as that’s literally your argument.
City car with a 600HP engine installed is actually less of a Frankenstein vehicle than our Kikka.
Until evidence is found, Kikka will remain as a Frankenstein vehicle that goes hand in hand with 38MT.
Is 38M with an IR seeker a work of fiction ? Maybe.
Is Kikka with guns a work of fiction ? Maybe.
Did all four entities in the example above exist ? Yes.
Both things in their listed configuration aren’t proven to be real, so they belong in the same basket.
But that’s the premise of Kikka still being in the game, which opens the door for other similar abominations to get added.
I mean the Typhoon does lack a FnF AGM and the Typhoon missile fits with these so ya know
Thanks for giving us yet another example you took from the endless can of worms that has been opened because of the Kikka.
Japan and their fiction fleet has been a reason for so many controversies and double standards it’s not even funny anymore.
Also, EFT definitely needs 18x M3.0+ IR AGMs to remain competitive.
I’m a big fan of adding plausible hypotheticals to the game.
I want as much unique content as possible, so long as it doesn’t compromise the realistic modelling of things.
I’m far happier having napkin vehicles with plausible realistic modelling and mechanics than I am seeing the 20th Leopard 2 duplicate.
I must say quite an interesting perspective. But then, of course, there must be the same approach to all nations.
Definitely.
I think we have a more interesting game if we don’t stick so narrowly to such a banal definition of realism.
It’s already causing problems where there are post-cold war technology gaps.
The only solution is to scour the Internet for proposals, napkins, designs etc and conform them to the mechanical and modelling realism of the game.
As it stands, Kh-38MT may be a good example because it is only referred to on paper and no genuine copy has been certified to exist. However, nobody informed would consider it impossible to exist.
I think that’s a much better standard than is the case for most equipment.
The issue is with the Kh38MT is if we can’t prove its real or not it really shouldn’t of been added to the game.
Genuinely something that buggers me off TBH, like the Shir 2 getting L23, a round that the tank never fired at all.
Or the F16AJ
Leopard 2a4’s not getting hteir historic DM33 (at the very least) capabilities. etc etc etc
the games mix and match response to “balance” is just stupid at this point, KH38’s aren’t dominating entire lobbies like folks want you to think, I’ve played nearly exclusively top tier the past week and a half and seen F15’s or Rafales rinse lobbies more then Su30’s or Su34s.
(caveat I actually have shot down more SU30s in my J8B than anyother plane so it just goes to show, the pilots aren’t very smart and its easily countered if someone spawns a plane)
I do believe KH38MT should be removed until we get some proof of existence, much like F16AJ should be long gone by now.