The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

That’s exactly right. CAS certainly has a place in GRB/CA but the biggest problem has been a lack of reliable SPAA access for most of the nations in the game as well as lack of CAP access.

When it comes to fighting Russia in top tier it’s impossible because none of the NATO SPAA is good enough and trying to counter via CAP is borderline useless because of the Pantsir, so we have a situation where Russia gets to run roughshod over everyone else and are only defeated by the sheer incompetence of the players, but those losses are too far and few between and because of the absolute lack of balance lots of players - Myself included - Have quit top tier entirely.

Well thank to KH-38MT I can’t playing mbt anymore instead of light tanks and spawn jet fast as i can
Brimstone FnF not gonna make any difference for me anymore since tanks is not the thing I can play in grb anyways.

Even without pantsir spawn you have to be fast enough to kill them like 10sec after they spawn or your team are dead.

I was giving reasons for its mysterious nature, not proof for an argument that said it existed or not.

*Believe btw.

Yep. CAS and CAP should spawn from the airfield in GRB/CA regardless of BR range. Kh-38MT slingers only reinforce that argument ontop of how busted the fantasy missile is and again, that it should be removed outright.

Do tell where did you found the majority of the player base, as this thread certainly isn’t that.

You’re acting like other 12.0s have munitions that can’t be intercepted at all and are essentially free kills.

I can understand the F-111F but B+ ? Hell no.
It has 4x 65Ds and 2x 9Ms. That loadout surely doesn’t beat A-10C’s, especially since the latter can carry some GBUs.

And you’re back to comparing things in a vacuum, good job.
I don’t want unbalanced vehicles in the game, which is why I never liked 38MTs on 30SM.

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It wasn’t “rus main trauma” but that of everyone that went up against it. It’s also not a justification for anything, it’s a counterpoint to people claiming that one nation having better CAS is somehow new, or that this instance of it is particularly bad. It’s stupid and dishonest to present the KH-38MT as some sort of proof of “Russian bias” and doesn’t work unless you ignore a decade of precedent.

It would be nice if people advocated for better top tier CAS balance. They dont. They just cry about one individual aspect of it that happens to get a lot of kills currently.

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Exist IR variant of Kh-59?

if one particular weapon on three planes is getting a disproportionate amount of kills and the player base is asking for A. its removal due to lack of evidence of its actual existence B.I know I have and a decent few others have suggest replacements that fit the better inline with what everyone else has

then that is people asking better balance you also pretend like people haven’t been asking for better spaa which is just wrong

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You know what, you’re right.

Let’s remove the F-16AJ right now and add the XF-2A in its place, at the same BR.

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They made it very clear in their F-16AJ announcement that it was an exception to the rules. No such lines are present in the various aircraft that have Kh 38MTs.

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Those exceptions are the problem here.
People’s suggestions getting denied for lack of evidence, all the while complete fiction gets through must be really upsetting.

Did they even define a set of rules to differentiate all the fictional rejects from the possible “exceptions” ?

Speaking of deleting things, I’m still surprised how no one called out Gaijin for their different standard when it comes to deleting vehicles and weapons, as the former actually is never truly deleted.

So did Mi-35M but bringing that up would mean having to show that Russia had their own way of bringing down the hammer just like the US )))

But it was ALSO Russia who received a proper counter-vehicle out of all the others first;

  • 1.87 - Tunguska is added
  • 1.89 - ADATS is added
  • 1.89 - FlaRakPz 1 is added

So for a whole patch they had the ability to stop the AH-1Z from being an issue, but nobody else could do the same to their Mi-35M

Lmao. Little buddy thought he had a “gotcha” moment hahaha.

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I haven’t even been playing back then, didn’t they have M247 yet ?

So I thought I’d check today and see what I can find.
No hard proof, just continued insistence into the present day that Kh-38MT is real.

Links for those interested parties.

КТРВ на форуме «Армия-2024» - bmpd — LiveJournal
Корпорация «Тактическое ракетное вооружение» на МАКС-2021 - bmpd — LiveJournal
https://archive.ph/sIyav#:~:text=semi-active%20laser%3B-,X-38MTE,-–%20inertial%20%2B%20thermal%20imaging
https://archive.ph/pRbbP#selection-445.244-445.251:~:text=Х-38МЛЭ%20и-,Х-38МТЭ,-%2C%20Х-69%2C%20Х

At the very least there’s a decent amount of insistence on the matter, just no solid evidence of any Kh-38MT having been assembled and publicly shown.

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Autocannon shells were despawning past ~3km’s so M247 was irrelevant to helis with longer ranged ATGMs back then. The only way to counter helis was with SAM SPAA’s or spawning jets (that had no flares, against AIM-9L/Ms and R-60Ms lol).

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If you’re think otherwise then you’re delusional.

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Gaijin have standards?