Rarely. Rafale is the closest to kh38 spam but rafale itself is rare occurance on top tier.
F15 almost never gets insta 6 kills. Last time i saw one was like a month ago (and i only play toptier)
Atleast i can shoot at them most of the time
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Lucky you, every 11.7 match ive played since the BR changes im drowned in mavs from F16s and F15s man.
Its ancedotal experience I suppose.
every single top tier game ive played (before the BR changes, And even after) has at least one rafale in it, normally its two.
WDYM its a rare occurance xD
Then why trying to generalise that all cas mains. Tho now i have troubles what u meant
Rare i meant hammers. Sry
Again why would hammers be rare? the platform thats slinging thems there.
Overall top tier rn is brutal for cas in general, the su30 and 34 would be fine with KH29s thouhg,. especially since we cant even prove the 38MT existed.
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I dont see hammers on kill feed that often.
Quite a lot of people play rafale as cap tho
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I have been playing with mrbombastic (RIP his forum ban xD) and uniquescorpions and i enjoyed playing with them. If u want to play toptier hop in everyone is much welcome 🙂
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still better then the AGM-65s they dont even reach 20km under the same conditions
Aye I tend to avoid top top tier Right now, just done a 9:3 game in my 12.0 german lineup though xD the 2a5 and 2a6 are awesome man
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my experience at top tier has been rather similar, ive seen like next to no Refales or F15s seen a TON of Su30SM and Su34s, I think I saw a single game with an EFT and even then he got 2 kills before dying
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France isn’t that much played. Thats why Rafales are rare. I also rarely see US Air Force or Luftwaffe. Its like ppl gave up to use Mavericks or laser guided ordnance vs. Pantsirs. The 800 spawn point investment for a jet doesn’t pay off for most nations.
Still, one thing has to be said:
Hammers are Mach 1.
KH-38 are going Mach 2.2
You see that there’s sufficient time to do something to avoid Hammers. When Rafales fire Hammers from airspawn range, they need a quite long time to reach target. Its not trivial.
Mach 2.2 KH-38 simply don’t allow your vehicle to escape. Even when you smoke and speed away, you most likely won’t make it. Especially in unarmored vehicles, which are susceptible to the 100m splash damage radius.
Mach 2.2 speed also reduces the chance that random events spoof your shot. When you use slow moving missies, it often happens that the target gets behind a building or random smoke spoofs the lock. KH-38 are that fast that the time window is too small for random failures. Compare that to Mavs, which need an eternity to tumble towards the target and often fall out of the sky before they connect.
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Not sure what top tier you play but when im playing theres cas for almost every nation up and about.
Mavs, GBUs name it.
To bring up the pantsir as a calling card so much as anyone mentions cas that isnt russian is a weak argument.
F15, F16, Gripen, Mirages, rafales, (somewhat the typhoon) can all actively play and dodge pantsir easy, these platforms counter pantsir easily. (we need better spaas for all the other trees BTW that is a non argument from me)
The smoking and running away again relies on you to be watching the air for a damn plane firing missiles from what? 16km Away? whilst also playing against the ground forces.
Hell I used an A7D in my 11.3 lineup for USA and can easily rack off its aim65B’s ! and get between 1 - 4 kills.
Im not here defending the KH38MT BTW I genuinely believe the thermal targetting version should be removed from the game, its leaps and bounds ahead of almost every other AGM mounted on a plane bar the hammer and KH29
Im not debating that the KH38 is stupidely good at all.
Merely an off topic remark to a one sentence joke has gone over board xD
Lol the render distance is several KM below that so…
The Hammer, at the very least, is slow, but other than that, yeah it’s a menace. Probably my fav AGM because of how agile it is on terminal guidance. You rarely miss with the thing.
The Kh-29s are a different story and I disagree completely. Being TV seekers, they, at best, acquire moving locks at around 8km, usually around 4-6km, and put you in Type 81, manpad, crotale, and pantsir killboxes. You kinda need to chuck them from outside their lock range, hope they lock a target on the way in, and nab the kill. Unless you like flying dangerously, but CAS pilots are pussies who rarely go for thrills beyond the big 5-6 gold names on the killfeed within 5 seconds of each other. (Speaking from personal experience there).
Issue is they do get 3t/1.5t bombs so it’s actually hard in early game scenario to catch them. i sometimes spawn in SPAA and a fab3k is in spawn already.
Also they can take out SPAA with glide bombs all the same, also similarly u can do that with KH38ML. KH29TD itself might not be the best, but the stuff around it still makes it a strong contender. AASM I just find too slow, even with Tor or HQ17 it is easy enough to intercept.
That only works if Soviet stuff is the only thing to be inaccurate in a beneficial way, for which they haven’t since Mig-23MLD for exactly one major update before USA had equivalent aircraft and better aircraft were added.
Gaijin wasn’t as knowledgeable on BR placement prior to development back then and that’s a lesson they thankfully learned for future additions… though we did have one major update where USA, Japan, and Israel had the only top BR aircraft before everyone else got options, but that’s a tangent.
@Farlexgamer_psn
Nothing is artificially nerfed.
Mig-29’s flight model currently matches charts.
The thrust curve could be better and more in-line with the anti-FOD device opening, which would improve performance above those speeds.
Though that’s a separate conversation for another topic.
Kh-38MT’s existence is in question, and there’s no evidence posted in either direction proving anything for it.
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MICA and BVR in the same sentence is very questionable lmao, even with Rafale having absurd performance rn MICA is still hard limited to 50km max kinematic range and server wiggles cut that down significantly
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Exaclty my point dudes talking about popping smokr and running from missiles we dont even know are there.
Only with LWS will you even know some missiles are there
I use the kh29s on my su25, two guaranteed kills with them, fire then on the way in usually between 5km and 12km out and.
Then i either swap to KABs or S250s and go to town.
The type 81s actually my nemisis as you dont get an rwr warnijg for it so gotta make sure you keep your eyes open.
The KH29s are actually strong but balanced missiles.imho the KH38T is just overkill
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thats what happens when there is a competent defence industry. meanwhile non-existent IR Kh-38 is given to USSR, tell me who gets the more preferential treatment
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has there still been no valid proof?