The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

No?
No what?

Im not saying GBUs are kh38 levels however im saying top tier cas goes too far with these newer platforms.

As i said in the other comment, responding to someone who was talking about cas thunder at top tier.

Even the rafale or f15e/I (which didnt move up in br btw in grb) demolish lobbies.

Perhaps a poorly worded example.

Even the ef2000 with guided bombs can reak havoc at top tier due to its flight perfromance
Should of stated that.

the mig23MLD dominated its BR bracket for well over a year

yeah, the russians are also handheld as well even if a lot of the people here dont wanna admit it

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As if that’s important when you can just stay outside of range of everything that isn’t Pansir/CAP aircraft lmao.

There’s more than enough videos on youtube of people doing that with 38MLs on the Su-25SM3, and you’re acting as if that’s something that simply “isn’t possible”.

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well compare it to the MT and it is imposable why would they risk it lmao (even if the ML is one of the best laser guided weapons in the game that can go from 20km to target in about 17 seconds)

Im not defending anybody?

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No it can’t, from 20km it flies around 50 seconds, because it lofts.

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every graph I have seen has shown being able to do that, I assume its because its being launched from a mach 1 jet not at 657 km/h, at the end of the day it is still faster then mavs are at the same range

I was gonna test it with the AGM-65E but it appears its max range is only 10km

Ahh yes, so handheld that they had to get a missile from 2015 to compete; so handheld that gaijin waited until they added the ufo eurocanards, in order to make the flankers flight performance even slightly competitive…

So handheld that they had one of the worst radars up until the release of the Su34.

So handheld that the Mig29 got artificially nerfed due to the cries of us mains, complaining about the R27ER during 100m multipath (the nerf didn’t even fix that, actually they nerfed the flight performance which had nothing to do with the ER).

The us is arguably the most handheld nation in air, they got excellent vehicles at every br, and some are even op…

But sure, russian bias.

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and the UK had to get a challenger 2 that isnt even in service yet? (still isnt there best tank btw) also that sounds more like an issue with russian equipment then an issue with the US being hand held

and yet here we are russia being the only nation with PESA radars and 2 of them at that

got any actual evidence of that or is this a “my thing got nerfed it had to be US mains” kinda deal?

which is understandable because during the time of SARH missiles it was the strongest BVR missile in the game. Just like how people complain about the AMRAAM and MICA now because they are the best BVR weapons in the game

never claimed they weren’t, just stated that russia was also hand held and people didnt like to admit it.

never said it was that was your words not mine

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I checked this out with the AGM-65G from 3km altitude and a distance of 19km with a speed of 682 km/h and it didnt even reach the target :/

What you can do is launch within 10km, and then slowly drag the laser point towards the target. This of course not result in a very optimal flight path.

You probably don’t need to test it anyway, it’s very often not going to reach 20km if you don’t launch from high speed and altitude, it’s close to its max range. Even if you launch from mach 1 though, you can still get some suprisngly short ranges. Recently found at you can’t do 12km launches from 1km altitude at mach 1, it will fall short by ~300-500m, even more if the target is moving. Was a bit disappointed with that.

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Then look less at graphs and play the game, even at mach 1 it’s still around 40-45 sec


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Rarely. Rafale is the closest to kh38 spam but rafale itself is rare occurance on top tier.

F15 almost never gets insta 6 kills. Last time i saw one was like a month ago (and i only play toptier)

Atleast i can shoot at them most of the time

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Lucky you, every 11.7 match ive played since the BR changes im drowned in mavs from F16s and F15s man.
Its ancedotal experience I suppose.

every single top tier game ive played (before the BR changes, And even after) has at least one rafale in it, normally its two.
WDYM its a rare occurance xD

Then why trying to generalise that all cas mains. Tho now i have troubles what u meant

Rare i meant hammers. Sry

Again why would hammers be rare? the platform thats slinging thems there.

Overall top tier rn is brutal for cas in general, the su30 and 34 would be fine with KH29s thouhg,. especially since we cant even prove the 38MT existed.

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I dont see hammers on kill feed that often.

Quite a lot of people play rafale as cap tho

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I have been playing with mrbombastic (RIP his forum ban xD) and uniquescorpions and i enjoyed playing with them. If u want to play toptier hop in everyone is much welcome 🙂

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