The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[tripod2008]

@Rileyy3437-live

I think the US has better options.

Like? Remember you do get 2x / 4x per station, so they can be massed. Sure if you need something to die other PGMs, JSOW, CBU’s or HARMs are better but the magazine depth it offers is definitely a step up in terms of F&F performance

@Rileyy3437-live

Also there’s likely some limitations to the IR seeker present or at least there may be a debate on it like there was for AASM-HAMMER.

It practically does it all, short of Capital ships though it is worth noting that seeker doesn’t identify, only classify targets as specified. and that due to it’s use of a Ram Air Turbine, range is effectively solely a function of release conditions, though in exchange takes a drag penalty.

and that the Warhead looks fairly similar to the AGM-114R’s so the effective radius against heavy armor isn’t great.

[MotorolaCRO]

Lets be honest, it’s not going anywhere until a proper replacement is introduced.

[tripod2008]

You do get that the Kh-29T and non-IIR Kh-38 variants will be untouched and will remain perfectly viable, yes?

Hopefully Gaijin will additionally produce information sufficient for each airframe they are equipt on, as one must for all other additions.

The fact that it wouldn’t be removed until an alternate already exists proves just how much people think of it as a crutch.

[Jεcka]

@tripod2008

You do get that the Kh-29T and non-IIR Kh-38 variants will be untouched and will remain perfectly viable, yes?

He thinks Kh-38ML is not enough, fyi.

[sudo_su1]

@tripod2008

You do get that the Kh-29T and non-IIR Kh-38 variants will be untouched and will remain perfectly viable, yes?

Well, Su-30SM probably shouldn’t keep the Kh-38ML either, as there seem to be no evidence that it can carry the targeting pod required for self designation …

[maguumo]

Not how it is implemented in game. See videos in these two posts as examples:

Spoiler

@maguumo

Examples:

Spoiler

@MythicPi

Fired 2 in POINT lock at a moving convoy. Tried to get them to track separate vehicles but they both locked onto the lead one, you can def see them track that lead vehicle though

Or a short description from an official tutorial:

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/y1jSd1RLCnI?si=LPWPO2cqNaSIvBI7&t=639
Timestamp doesn’t work for some reason, skip to 10:39.

[somebodyblackhan]

funny thing is that the coelian got removed because it only existed as an mockup.
instead they added ost wind of which there isnt liabel proof it was ever built.

[kedrigern]

weve reached over 5000 messages in this thread with little to no response from the devs. Idk, @Smin1080p_WT you maybe wanna do something?

[MotorolaCRO]

@tripod2008

You do get that the Kh-29T and non-IIR Kh-38 variants will be untouched and will remain perfectly viable, yes?

38ML isn’t really a valid replacement for SM3 and SU-34, as the time to effectively use all 4/6 of them will drastically increase when compared to the 38MT.
29TD is self explanatory.

[ARK_BOI]

@MotorolaCRO

38ML isn’t really a valid replacement for SM3 and SU-34,

Both shouldn’t get sht if Tornado GR4 still stuck with SAL Brimstone and both don’t even deserve to have MT at the first place especially MT is fake missile.

[Creator_711]

Well the Ostwind did exist. 44 were made from 1944 till the end of the war

The ostwind 2 is the one that people say doesnt exist

[MotorolaCRO]

Gr4 can carry 3x AGMs + targeting pod + 6x Brimstones at 12.3.
SM3 can carry 4x 38MTs at 12.7 while also having much worse A2A ability.
I think you got your wires crossed.

SU-34 is almost a full BR higher so it being better overall makes sense, especially when you take massive compression into account.

[Creator_711]

Is that taking the GRB BR or the ARB BR into account? Cause the BR difference in ground battles (where A2G munitions matter) is only .4

[MotorolaCRO]

@Creator_711

Cause the BR difference in ground battles (where A2G munitions matter) is only .4

Gr4 is at 12.3 while SU-34 is at 13.0.
It got moved up in the last BR changes.

[ARK_BOI]

Well also consider as GR4 don’t have luxury of having a*s covering by best SPAA in the game unlike SM3 and SU-34 but always facing them and need to apply more skills to make it work than average Russian KH-38 Slinger
sure as hell GR4 need full FnF Brimstone more than SM3 and SU-34 ever need MT
plus
Mmw Brimstone is “Real” (even I non expert can show you video and some data of it existence)
KH-38MT is “Fake” (which no prove whatsoever until this day that it was real)

[MotorolaCRO]

@ARK_BOI

Well also consider as GR4 don’t have luxury of having a*s covering by best SPAA in the game unlike SM3 and SU-34

Thanks for confirming you’d need to include a 3rd party to make it even remotely competitive if they lost 38MTs.

At least Gaijin knew RU CAS would be beyond laughable without a proper top tier FnF weapon.

[ARK_BOI]

@MotorolaCRO

Gaijin knew RU CAS would be beyond laughable without a proper top tier FnF weapon

China still doesn’t have them
Israel just got shtty mav D on F-15I
Sweden stuck with just 4mav
German don’t have it at all (By your logic they need FnF brimstone the most on EFT)
heh Gaijin know how to handheld Russia more like it that need fake missile

[MotorolaCRO]

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[Godvana]

Devs are hoping that if they wait long enough we will just forget about this

(we won’t)

[SwingfireOP]

Definately not.

It’s not going away.