The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

The point of this whole post is that there is no proof of there having ever been production at all, never mind any proof of a functionnal missile being tested.

A brochure and mockups is not evidence of production, even limited, and nobody has yet provided evidence of any actual functional Kh-38MT having been produced.

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no, western countries are blocked from accessing russian websites

gaijin actually accepted those as sources in a bug report like 20 days ago which is interesting

this was already addressed and he replied later on more with it being functional

Clearly not, since i can access it just fine, as can frienss of mine in the EU and US lmao

Im not sure why you bother lying, Ive been very fair and open with this post and the discussion.

i cant access the Sukohi website for example
and a few more russian .gov websites
http://www.sukhoi.org/

If you mean that’s what most people are claiming, I can believe that, given how propagandized people are

But I don’t think there’s any doubt that Russia could make the thermal variant just fine
Whether it would be deemed suitable for their own service (in terms of cost/capability and production rate etc) is another story …

Them being able to make something and them having made something are 2 different things entirely.

Unless you are saying every nation should get everything they could have ever made in-game, which is absolutely insane as a take.

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A MWS like that is a very different class of system. I get the point being made but this is apples to oranges. I think using small diameter IIR systems is a better way to demonstrate this.

The game is not based on peer-reviewed scientific proof

It’s based on what the country/company of origin claims

It’s not like we have verified all the claims that the non-Russian companies/countries have made in their documents …

In order to add a weapon to planes there must be proof of working weapon of said type to be at least seen on said plane.
Meaning: There is a picture of, lets say F-80 with, lets say R-77, and in that imaginary scenario that place can fire that missile. It means it can be added.
IF it would be lets say J-7D with AGM-65A mockup, it would not be added, as it does not meet the critera and it is not eligible.

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gaijin added it. i don’t think there is any way to get it removed. they won’t accept anything despite knowing that they themselves don’t have anything that fulfills their own criteria.

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Not “everything that they could have ever made”

But rather “things that they claim that have made”
In fact, that’s exactly what Gaijin does (with some rare exceptions where they reject the sources saying what the source says is implausible etc but that’s a different story).

And there is also the Dev criteria, where everything goes…
If we can indeed prove no MT existed, and we make it vocal enough they just might.
Or they will keep it for “balance reasons”

I know in some cases they rejected it, but I’m not sure if they have a hard rule against mockups for plane loadouts

Last time i checked they had.
But there are always exemptions from the rules…

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Well he’s wrong lol

OLS-27 and derivatives use a very different optics train and gimbal assembly from what would be expected in an iir missile

Please read the whole thread before being so confident in your statements.

You can clearly see a lens at the bottom and the circular thing at the top is indeed a gimbal rotation point, there is even marker paintings on the bearings to indicate rotation.

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But … But … Do you have a video where the missile is launched at a target with a selfie camera mounted on the missile pointing towards the seeker so that we can be sure it for real works and it’s not just propaganda?!

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I see, my bad. I scrolled through the thread last night late and only saw low resolution pictures that made it look like we were seeing internal reflections.

OLS-27 still uses a very different assembly and optics train and they look nothing alike.