I mean if its good enough for the KH-38MT lol but in all seriousness it would be nice to have an SDB counterpart on the EFTs to help counter pantsirs combined with GPS/SAL guidance I think they would probably replace Brimstones
Trade against what? SPAA’s? No:
The only ones you’ll “trade against” are gonna be CAP planes, but that’s the fate of all strike aircraft ever since 2013.
isn’t the ML hard locked to 10km like the mavs? NVM I forgot they are IOG.
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NOTHING can stop a kh38mt carrier from firing its agms before it dies, you would have to literally circle their airspawn to be able to kill the carrier within 5 seconds
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which is far more balanced then just getting 4 free kills
the people trying to defend this thing will look at that and just go “but I cant just launch all 4 immediately and dive to the ground where im untouchable??”
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So then the Su-34 would be the only option which is also dominated by CAP
planes generally need a rework in GRB, they are too braindead
all planes should start from airfield ALWAYS
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Planes should also be forced on “adaptive SP” system, i.e if they want to use their full CAP /+/ CAS loadouts, they’ll need to put in vastly more effort on the ground.
Currently it’s a joke that an avg of 2 kills is enough to give some nations basically between 4 to 6 free ground kills from the air.
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Ooh someone is getting feisty.
So the moment RU gets a plane that can defend itself and at the same time be potent it’s a problem???
You also act like they aren’t planning to add other weapons to other nations. (Like the always do)
I used to troll with ka50 when it was still op to show this absurd, I would go in and cap a point with bt7 (which was easy on majority of maps), then I just sit there and damage some random tank/bmp (sometimes even got a kill lmao) and instantly J out to spawn with 12 vikhrs in like 2 minutes after game starts…
now its even more cancer because you can spawn with op f&f agms
no the problem is they are using blatantly OP missiles that dont exist lmao, I fail to see how people cant grasp that concept.
its been over a year and still no other A2G weapon has come close to being as OP as the MT… almost like it was added way to soon
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it was the same with r27er, completely fake stats (still are) and we didnt get anything equivalent/better for a looong time
Su-34 has been able to defend itself since forever, so has the Su-25SM3 via the R-73s, but do point out to me where I said “it’s a problem”, I think you’ll find that between the two of us, it’s only you who has brought it up.
The problem is that other nations actally have to worry about both CAP and SPAAs, whereas Russia only has to worry about being potentially CAPed - that is the difference that YOU are failing to account for when arguing how badly Russia has it, and how they NEED to be able to fire off their MTs from 15km+ and then go back to their AF.
I’ve been actively playing the Pantsir recently, and the difference in how much effort the two opposite sides have to put in to perform is at a level of a JOKE, one spawns, gets free kills, the other spawns and immediately has to defend itself (even if I can’t/don’t kill them, I still force them into a position where they can’t do anything).
Add to that how MT is pretty much fake, and it’s very much a “whew lad” moment.
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Denying you said it doesn’t really work when I can just quote you, you know?
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The point of a forum is to exchange opinions and argue if you disagree. If you don’t want replies why are you posting here?
Cheers to you using kills per time as argument to call something OP for the third time. If you think being able to do that is overpowered it would be advisible to not single out one weapon system, otherwise it just looks like bias.
If an enemy is camping your airspawn or paying attention you won’t be getting many missiles off, maybe none if you can’t find ground targets. Being able to perform CAP duty in the same plane is also worth a lot.
And where am I saying they’re OP only because of that? You’re creating a narrative just so you can argue against it, so, strawman.
Cheers to you using kills per time as argument to call something OP for the third time.
Oh ok, I see. You just want to feel like you’ve won an argument on the internet.
XD
It’s the only reason you gave in the posts, so it’s not like there’s any room for interpretation.
Please point out the reasons you gave for the KH-38MT being OP in the post I initially quoted. Besides someone getting six kills in 15 seconds, that is.
I’d probably be fine with CAP planes keeping the airspawn, but especially at lower BRs the distinction between CAS and CAP becomes very blurry, so that might not work well.
No, it’s a reason, but you can see that’s it’s in a completely separate sentence that is disconnected from the one where I’m calling the weapon OP.
You latched onto it, put 2 + 2 together and made it equal 5 just so you could say I claimed it’s OP because it can get kills quickly, even AFTER I clarified later on that it isn’t the only or sole reason why I think the weapon is OP. You never even asked me to expand on why I think it’s OP, you just assumed my initial post gave all the info you needed to strawman me and went for it.
So anyways, you’ve won this internet argument, you managed to argue against a point made only by you, and you defeated the pretend argument, good for you :>
edit: btw, this is enough off-topic now tbh, i’m ending the fun here (not to hurt your feelings or anything, cus you’ve done that yourself).
So you’re writing a post with two sentences, one calling the weapon OP and one stating that someone got 6 kills in 15 seconds. And the reader is supposed to believe that these two statements are disconnected, completely seperate and unrelated to each other? That doesn’t make any sense and isn’t how language works.
If you’re trying yourself out as an absurdist author you should put a disclaimer below your posts, otherwise people might get the idea that they’re supposed to be coherent.