The copy pasted the seeker from the AGM65
one of the example of small and large fov IIR seekers is literally the MAW of f22
the bluish screen thingy is the MAW here, its ir band (definitely iir unless it will struggle detecting missiles)
All I see is a crumbling ram coating
this
yeah but its still larger than a pinhole lol
We’re not talking about the Kh-38 in general but the MT variant specifically, of course some variants have been used but the Kh-38MT was seemingly never used
Ok so, thought over the information provided by the ppl claiming this to be a Kh-38MT mockup, and did some more digging, and I mostly do believe they are in fact correct.
I’m not sure why the news article that discussed the missile shown indicated it was an MLE armed with a SALH seeker, there is still the possibility that there was information provided to the person who took the picture indicating it to have been a SALH seeker, but it does seem to be wrong. I have found a model making company that appears to have been the ones to have made the mockup, and they indicate it to be an MTE model.
That being said, the missile is still a mockup. This only brings the number of known mockups ever made of the Kh-38MTE and publicly presented to 2-3, and all other evidence that the missile was never produced or actually worked still apply.
It is also to be noted that it remains absolutely bizare that the latest known brochure for the Kh-38MTE does not use the same model as the MAKS 2017 mockup, instead using a computer model of the original mockup seen at MAKS 2009. Not sure what to do with that info.
I’ve updated the thread info to reflect the new info.
As a sidenote, @MightyBaozi any chance you could do something about the people spam flagging the post because they dont like it? Seems like an abuse of the forum flag system.
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Btw you should fix that. All the photos you provided state “Х-38МЭ” on the side, it’s not a thermal seeker one, rather a general model mockup. The one you’re searching for would say “Х-38МТЭ”.
“Т” in the middle goes for “Thermal”
Here’s a higher resolution photo.
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Maybe because journalists don’t understand the difference between MT and ML
That’s just your guess. About a hundred missiles are spent on testing alone.
That’s just your guess
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if anything given its absence on more recent brochures and at more recent expos it failed testing and the concept was dropped
Then please provide evidence that such numbers where built and tested. Even just evidence a single KH-38 with IIR guidance was built and test fired is enough.
GIven how it is nearly impossible to prove a negative, in the absence of concrete proof, the assumption must be that it did not exist.
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No, its a thermal seeker model. The notation difference is because the missile was originally called Kh-38M (or Kh-38ME for the export designation). The seeker options differentiating the missiles seem to have came later, but it is a mockup of the Kh-38MTE for all intents and purposes.
The missile seems to have been renamed to Kh-38ML (or Kh-38MLE for the export model) nowadays, retaining the ML designation for the laser seeker, but pointing to the fact that there no longer are available variants with alternate seeker, making the old Kh-38M designation outdated.
About the link you’ve provided. Don’t you find it just funny how they don’t provide a photo of a seeker head-on? Instead for that purpose they’re using a photo from some kind of convention, a photo of a general mockup “Х-38МЭ”?
Let me check that.
There are many prototypes in the game that did not go into production.
yes but most of those are proven to have worked while for this the program probably got dropped because it didnt work
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Your question is as incompetent as possible. Is it worth putting up for sale something that has not even been produced or tested
That isnt the issue.
As far as I am aware, all other in game prototypes existed in their entirety and were actually fired at least once.
SRAAM is a good example of this with about 8 or so test fires before being canceled.
The issue, is the KH-38 0 evidence thus far it was anything more than a mock-up
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HSTVL.SRAAM, M247 and so on, where proven effectiveness?
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