You can’t be serious.
well strapping a litening 5 pod to an atacms would still be 3 times cheaper than a single kinzal so dont know 1,700,000+1,400,000=3.1 million vs 10 million
The price of a LMUR something I would consider close to what an KH-38MT is cost only about $230,000. So no.
Find me a legit 2.2M missile with IR + IOG and we can talk. Obviously they thought those planes do need something like that.
Everyone having same missiles while having better FMs as well would be pretty fun. I guess you’re yet another person that failed to understand what is asymmetrical balancing.
may get flag for this but corruption under the name of “greater good” probably if thats the case
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yea i just tried to find a stupid expensive weapon system with thermal pod level resolution
(good luck finding a sources my atacms litening 5 hybrid does not exist )
and compared it to a even more stupid expensive weapon system which is in actual use
Well, Russia’s approach to procuring weapons always has scalability in mind. It probably explains why it was never adopted in the first place.
The -9E, -9J and most subsequently derived export variants use a Peltier cooler.
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This fits the requirements as specified, yes? 20K USD for the seeker and guidance section, the rest of the missile is government furnished (~2,800 USD). And so is effectively free since it’s already been bought, not that it would be anywhere near that expensive considering that production has been intermittent for almost 45 years now (FR-IP started 1981).
So, where do the upsides lie for other nations?
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Well you see, Russia gets the best SPAA, the best attack helicopter, the best (potentially fictional) ASM’s, the best air to ground lineup, and the best light tanks/IFV’s to make all the air assets easy to spawn.
The other nations in exchange get to be the glorious targets for RU players to abuse in ground battles :)
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Asymmetric balance is the KH-38ML:
You trade getting the best performance in every category for having to guide it against moving targets.
Unbalanced is the KH-38MT:
You trade nothing and get everything.
See how that works?
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lol.
Dude, if all this drama is just because you can’t handle fighting Soviet tech, maybe try different tactics. Unlike you, actual Russian players never whined to the devs about nerfing American vehicles on the forums. As an ASB player, I couldn’t care less about the X-38 missile, but I can’t help laughing every time English-speaking players throw another tantrum the moment any weapon outperforms their domestic favorites.
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X-38 is from late 2010s gng. Ka-52 entered service 2011, T-90M is late 2010s, so is T-80BVM. Su-30SM is from 2013
It is most definitely not Soviet tech ppl are fighting anymore
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Funny, reminds me of the whole F-14 story in Sim Battles)
A false flag. How do you even hope for an objective discussion of anything if you’re trying to hide objectionable posts?
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F-14 bad IR missiles, AIM-54 is skill check at best, AWG-9 is a shell of its true self, engines hotter than sun, mediocre CM count on the A models, no GEN-X, no AIM-9M, no 9L on A model, no RIO modeled
Kh-38MT has great seeker, great range, unmatched speed, IOG, and 2 solid launch platforms with a third mediocre one
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The Su-30 is still a modification of the Su-27 from the 1970s-80s.
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Stop talking nonsense. NATO aircraft had been farming easy wins in top-tier matches for over a year. Even the addition of the Su-30 didn’t really shift the balance. But it gave Red Team players something crucial—a usable radar. And oh boy, the meltdown began…
Players who’d gotten used to pressing a single key on their keyboard suddenly faced an insurmountable obstacle—now someone could actually detect them and fire back. How unfair! And the same injustice awaits them on the ground, because now Red Team finally has weapons that can kill tanks, while Blue Team has had an entire arsenal of such tools for ages—plus those sweet targeting pods.
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All other Soviet fighters at its BR fly with the R-60M, which is significantly worse than the AIM-9L. Are you joking, or do you just not understand the game, or are you trying to pass off wishful thinking as reality?
Also, I remember the times when the F-14 was 0.3 BR higher than all other third-generation fighters, yet anyone on the English-speaking forum tried to prove how ‘weak’ and ‘useless’ it actually was—while anyone who argued otherwise got mocked. So, how should we treat threads like this on this forum? As a genuine discussion about a real issue, or as a thread made just to make life easier for one side?
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They actually did, quite a bit.
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