The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

The 1.5x limit is to account for safety margins that designs and manuals include

But the 9G limiter is an electronic limiter and wouldn’t involve any “margins”

The ability to momentarily go above 9G (due to the control system shortcomings) is:

1- Limited in time
2- Limited in amount (IIRC from pilot accounts you could get 1 or 2 extra Gs for a short period of time)

In the game it goes way way beyond that …
And they could easily model that BTW. I.e. allow it to pull 1 or 2 extra Gs for a limited amount of time if the pilot applies full pitch input at high speeds.

(In fact IIRC it was already modeled … You could get a bit more than 9G and without time limit actually, especially with SB controls …)

I think they removed it to make it more conventional and similar to other planes for the players …

Because while it was modeled there was a “Wall” at ~840 km/h or so where below it you could reach 9G, but performance fell off incredibly quickly above it so there was effectively a hard cap on the energy that you could use in a dogfight since going in faster than than the corner meant the turn radius you had was massive and there was no way to dump energy fast enough to be competitive in a one or two circle fight due to the disparity in performance to contemporary airframes like the Mig-29 and others that were not impacted.

Which basically meant that the F-16 could be dealt with by rote, either by turning hard if it was going too fast, or climbing if it was slow to gain separation and stalling it out with the energy difference and there was nothing it could do to punish the opponent due to the AIM-9L’s not being able to deal with flares and limited access to SARHs (which have their own host of issues).

What did he say?

Defaulting to 3 gen Thermal for Russians things is interesting

3 Likes

meant aim9e, mb

How can this relatively small ir seeker have the same resolution as the litening pod ir camera


1 Like

Generation =/= resolution

russian tech wizardry

only seems to work on paper though…

9 Likes

Okay but what source is Gaijin using to know if it’s 2/3rd generation ir resolution on the mt

How would I know?

The one question I have been asking since I stumbled on this topic.

well its schrödingers seeker its both third and first gen until you look at it (which you cant)

1 Like

Precisely, this seeker is somehow housing 25x time optics, and high resolution thermals found in thermal gun pods. It doesn’t make much sense as to why anyone would spend so many resources on a seeker that’s going to get vaporized.

5 Likes

or maybe it was like that on the real missile would explain why no one wanted it

lists the litening 5 at 1.4 million per unit

Because smart bombs cost really a lot of money anyway, so if you gotta vaporize a load of money at least make sure it does what you want XD

You can’t be serious.

well strapping a litening 5 pod to an atacms would still be 3 times cheaper than a single kinzal so dont know 1,700,000+1,400,000=3.1 million vs 10 million

The price of a LMUR something I would consider close to what an KH-38MT is cost only about $230,000. So no.

Find me a legit 2.2M missile with IR + IOG and we can talk. Obviously they thought those planes do need something like that.

Everyone having same missiles while having better FMs as well would be pretty fun. I guess you’re yet another person that failed to understand what is asymmetrical balancing.

may get flag for this but corruption under the name of “greater good” probably if thats the case

1 Like