The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[dotSHINI]

@TheIrishBread

you also have a duty to prove to gaijin that the MT was cancelled and never reached testing. A lack of either is not an indicator in either direction.

with that you are saying that gajin is using classified information to add stuff and breaking the law
they cant add it in those cases either

[ron_2303]

where did he say that

and if they are using classified stuff, i dont think they would have copy pasted the agm65 seeker

[TheIrishBread]

Im not saying gaijin is using classified docs. Im saying there are likely documents in archive that would prove the argument one way or the other, They are just not on the internet. Thats likely one of the reasons why gaijin retained a satellite office in Moscow for years after the move to Hungary. And why they enter into agreements with various governments to get access to those archives.

[ExecutivOutcomes]

if it does exist I think it is more likely that it has to do with the tree consultant that made them copy the pars seekerhead (just an opinion)

[MotorolaCRO]

@dotSHINI

then the replacement is the KH29 variant, fact is they dont need to replace the KH38MT.

KH-29 isn’t a valid replacement as it’s inferior in literally every single way.

@dotSHINI

IF it is a non existent missle like its proven right now

You can’t really prove something is not real, especially with things like these.
Considering the missile is the same as KH-38ML but with IR guidance, the chances of it being real is very high.

@dotSHINI

it should be removed easy as that

Fake things exist in the game.

@dotSHINI

if the tank never used a dart it shouldnt get it easy as that, why u think the bagel doesnt get its dart?

You still don’t understand how Gaijin handles fake stuff, don’t you ?

@dotSHINI

with that you are saying that gajin is using classified information to add stuff and breaking the law
they cant add it in those cases either

They can assume it’s created as 38ML is a fully operational missile but with a different guidance mode.

[dotSHINI]

in that case they need to release the information they have stuff, but no matter what even if they continued working on it, until proven otherwise by you guys

no working version of the KH38MT exists and just declaring or imaginating it is wrong.
It is in your hand to prove it, until then the missle just doesnt exist in reality, no matter of mock ups or russia having developed IR missles of another kind before.

Non existince should be removed, the KH38MT is not a crucial piece of equipment and can be replaced by other types like the gps version or laser version. The MT version is not needed

[TheIrishBread]

Personally I think the missile is slated to replace the Kh-59 in its anti ship role. I expect Kh-59s current production line to be shuttered and Kh-38 take up its place except on the Su-57 where the 59MK2 will continue in place.

IR for high jamming environments and ARH for low jamming environments.

[UniqueScorpions]

But should it and others be totally removed? That is the question

[Anonymous4245]

The onboard computing is the small device next to the seeker head in between it and LMUR

[dotSHINI]

@MotorolaCRO

You can’t really prove something is not real, especially with things like these.

reasons you need to prove its real and we not its non existence

@MotorolaCRO

Considering the missile is the same as KH-38ML but with IR guidance, the chances of it being real is very high.

might be , might be not, but you need to prove that part. For all we know it works like taurus / aasm / storm shadow, seeker only activating on the last 2km for final approach against static targets,
In that case it works completly wrong and would need to be changed, but you dont know this because as of right now the missle doesnt exist

@MotorolaCRO

Fake things exist in the game.

and are steadily getting removed for the exact reason

@MotorolaCRO

You still don’t understand how Gaijin handles fake stuff, don’t you ?

getting removed when possible, KH38MT is no need, replacements exists.
Typhoon works with laser brimstones, Su 30 will works with KH38MT

@MotorolaCRO

but with a different guidance mode.

for which they dont know how its work and those cant be implemented right as a result should be removed

[Thenighthunter]

I’m going off of what he has put in his post.

[dotSHINI]

u missing the point that the Maus is real

the vehicles like the tiger 10.5 , coerlian , panther 2. that chinese ifv have been removed for the exact reasons, they didnt exist

[ItsOnyy]

@MotorolaCRO

ML isn’t it’s replacement as it has a completely different type of guidance.

Rain, Rain my KH-38ML missiles (War thunder)

It’s more than enough

[dotSHINI]

literaly works better then brimstones

[ItsOnyy]

“How am I supposed to seal club without automatic guidance 😢”

[TheIrishBread]

If you can dig up a doc from the RU MoD saying its canceled be my guest and forward it. Until then dealing in absolutes is a foolish endeavor. As it stands no one has put forward damning evidence in either direction in what over 3000 replies, just hypothesis at best derived from marketing material changes and speculation. That is to say not sufficient for advocating for removal.

And before you pull the “You cant prove a negative card” you can when its a government funded program for weapons creation. The barest minimum you would need is a meeting memo discussing said cancellation.

[ron_2303]

@TheIrishBread

dealing in absolutes

only Siths deal in absolutes

[dotSHINI]

@Necronomica

Stop asking for something that can’t be done as your argument.
The mere fact of lack of evidence of existence IS inherently the “proof of non-existence” as non-existence is the de facto default.

You can only prove things one way, not the other.

your problem not mine, i dont need to do anything

[AlvisWisla]

South America tech tree suggestion.

[TheIrishBread]

Not when gaijins policy is submit evidence of your claim so we can compare it to our own data and sources.