The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

aps in this situation could help

well yeah, but gajin would need to fix them first as well
But you see my point, besides that APS can be saturated as well

Personally I am more on the HOSBO side of things to bust harder targets. Even more so since that particular winged danger carrot was, basically, a finished weapon.

Yes I know its Ai but it’s a step in that direction.

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No stupid.

IOG means when you even just use is with a point lock, at ranges even outside of seeker track, it will use its unmatched speed to close that gap, acquire a target track far faster than any other AGM, and if the target still manages to see the missile and smoke, it’s IOG will still drag it into the cloud and kill the target if it has moved far enough from its warhead of unparalleled size.

Literally no other missile in-game has this concoctions of features.

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You get everything wrong. Kh-29TE its the Extended range of the Kh-29T the TD its the IR version for night operations. I already posted a pic of a naval Su-30sm testing the TD against a practice target for a promo/doc video.

Pretty bad analogy. And pretty much what this thread echo chamber/cj has become. Kh-38 missile exist. Its has being use in combat. What its unclear if the MT variant (or the seeker) its on Russian arsenal. And Lmur has already prove they also can produce IR seeker, so the whole muh Russian can’t produce IR seeker its of the windows… So again the only unclear factor is if the missile its actually on Russian Arsenal.

My guess is that Even if its on Russian inventory its on low amounts. The missile its kind an overkill and pricey. And the ML the laser version its more than enough for what the kh-38 its use against. And more important its hard to jammer. Russian and even the CEO of the company that produce Kh-38 talk that jamming its a problem in current conflict.

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if you are so certain that the MT version of the Kh38 exists AND has been built and mounted on a plane then provide evidence. If not then womp womp

over 1000 votes on the poll and still over 80% want it removed

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So, 15 minutes of searching for photos:
Kh-39 IR seeker
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Thermal version of Kh-39ME seeker (probably mockup by Моделлмикс)


Same yelowish glass covering and same large round lens behind it.
At least, the seeker exists, the base for a missile exists and a mockup of how it should look like also exist.

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That its not what i said. Pretty much its unclear if MT is being produce. They can produce the seeker. But its an option that in the end they decide to no produce it for whatever reason. But the use of thing like Kh-39 lmur said other wise.

I wonder if they could just put Kh-39 seeker on Kh-38. I’ve see that it kinda need some modifications for the carrier (Mi-28 and K-52m). For the MITL thing.

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its not that easy, completly different values etc, the LMUR or KH-39 has a range of 16km
the KH38MT has way more range, while a huge part is thanks to the engine.
An IR seeker on a completly different missle version doesnt prove the workability of another one.
The only proof of the KH38MT as you said is only this Mock UP.
The 2 parts existing doesnt matter, intergration, programmation etc needs to happen as well. You cant just stick them together and it works.
What u posted is no prove

15km Range from a chopper its a lot man.

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as i said, the doesnt matter

i didnt state its bad did i?

Still 15km doesnt get close to the proposed lock range of the KH 38MTm they are inherintly different seekers

Im pretty sure that’s a Izdelye 305, aka LMUR. Those 2 are different. It is not a Kh-38

Cannot post the source here, but reverse search leads to it

dude what are you talking about those have been posted like three times and they’re NOT IR seekers, do people even read the thread?

All of them are being use to describe the same missile. Izdelye 306 was suppose to be a version that was on the work with a tandem warhead. Edit; Read that 306 also should have 25km range.

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on the work, means it doesnt exist yet.
All the stuff only talks about the KH-38, nobody is saying the body exists.
But nobody of you is able to prove the existence of an actual integrated IR version.
Only ifs and similar. But the IR seekers of LMUR etc are different, they have completly different heads for the lenses alone. This already means its different stuff and cant be used to prove the workability