The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

You mean MT not ML. ML has actually been used

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Yep, thanks

even morvran_ is in this now lol

everyone is into this now

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one issue with the Kh-38MT is that there is nothing else they could’ve added to give any decent F&F capabilities to the russian CAS players, Kh-29TD is very meh, Kh-29D as far as i know is nonexistent, same with the Kh-25MTP, removing the Kh-38MT from the game for not existing (which as far as i know hasn’t been proven right or wrong) would leave a massive gap in capabilities, as for the ML, it’s good but it is hampered by 2 out of the 3 platforms it is on not having a proper TGP

Quick stats update:

Out of nearly 1000 votes, 83% have said to remove it. that’s 789 (789.33 if you want decimals) people.
That leaves 17% and only 162 (161.67 if you want decimals) people who want it to stay.

Out of nearly 1000 votes and nearly 2000 posts in only 4 days, the general consensus (as far as I understand, and i’ve spent way too much time reading all this) is that there’s not enough evidence for the Kh-38MT to remain in-game.

This is just information that I’ve gathered from this Thread, so if you want to argue with me, just re-read everything in this thread and you have my answer.

Edit: More people voted, now I need to redo my math T-T

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gaijin didnt give it IR yet

*There’s no evidence it saw actual use or existed in a finished form, technically, we have seen evidence that components of it existed, which gaijin might argue for keeping it in game, as contrary to their current guidelines for implementation as it would be.

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perhaps limit it to 2 or 4 would be better
not 6

because the Kh-29TD isn’t IR at all, don’t confuse it with the Kh-29D

Well not really. Many CAS players cried about the Adats, and 2S6, now look where we are. CAS is still the most dominant form on the battlefield

so many contradiction tho

yeah thats another problem
CAS play would cry if they get kill by spaa
and again ive said to Alvis before is that stat need to change for gaijin to put new spaa

Its because the KH-29TD in game is named wrong, its a KH-29TE.

That would be even worse as now you reintroduce the number imbalance from when the F16C with 6 AGM65D’s was the ruler with only 2 Kh-29TD’s under the MiG-29SMT 9-19 to compete, just at a lesser scale

yeah but 65D is way worse than 38MT in everyway
the hit rate is less out of 6 you get like 2-3 kills and at further range its almost useless

But, as was said by mods several hundreds of posts above, for a weapon to get into the game, it must have been successfully mounted and fired from the aircraft.

That’s all i’m gonna say.

As far as i know the Kh-29TD is correctly named, with the Kh-29TE being the export variant which fits it’s presence under the Su-25TM (Su-39) and that one chinese plane that has the TE’s

Isn’t the seeker copy paste from the 65D/G?

The track ranges are the same but the mavericks doesnt have ins