The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

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Wouldn’t it be easier to prove that the missile seeker was never placed on the KH38?

I don’t understand how people keep saying that the missile itself doesn’t exist, it does, it’s the KH 38
(what I mean is, the propellant + the explosive charge, they exist and are real)
The real question would then be whether the seeker was placed on these missiles? And if that’s the question, wouldn’t this photo alone prove that it is real? Because I doubt they would waste time making the cables and all the parts of the seeker just for being fake, for example like in this photo:

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this look very real for me…
if they wanted a 100% mockup it would be simple to just make a part that is 100% fake (without the cables and seeker) like this one:

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1412

they want people to buy it and out of those two which would you pay more attention to

1413

F15E and Rafale honest reaction :-

arent any more top tier single vehicle SPAA for other countries, when it comes to patriots which are multi vehicle SAM sites, they are considering it

which come pre nerfed to the ground

1414

This is what the thread is saying?
It doesn’t deny the existence of the whole series just the T variant.

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and that’s the point, they would make a 100% real seeker, not a fake one with nothing in front, so if the seeker is real…and the missile (propellant + explosive charge) is also real, doesn’t this prove that the kh38mt missile is real?

at least make some effort to read everything I wrote

1416

why would they? its much cheaper to make a fake one and then the income from export sales can be used for development significantly reducing the risk while maintaining almost the same potential reward

1417

well, thats my point,

1418

this isnt buy a washing machine that fancy models will attract you, more specific details and performance are required by forces for these weapons.

no point spending a lot of time nearly making a new seeker just for a mockup

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Also if no one is intersted in buyign the KH-38MT, why develop it in the first place.

Loads of examples of mockups being made for weapon systems that were ultimately canceled because no one was itnerested in buying them, like the ground attack variant of the ASRAAM

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so you are agreeing that it would be a smarter business move for them to have a fake seeker on display rather than developing one?

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1422

but they might not have developed a new seeker and just made something that vaguely looks like one

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the problem is that they wouldnt place a real seeker in a mockup
because yk that someone w malicious intend can just steal it away and boom sekret leak
the reason for finding if its real or not is that we need to know if its actually functional or not and putting a mockup seeker in a mockup is cheaper than putting real seeker in a mockup
because this isnt the US

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1424

except that would not attract as much attention as a still cheep fake that looks like a seeker

1425

I mean… stealing something probably highly protected at an exhibition event would be a dumb idea, but I get your point.

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and also even scorpion here cant even find any sources that is legit enough to prove that it actually exist to a functional level
if gaijin actually give their sources then we would rant about how its OP instead of debating if it even exist or not, like the T-95 that the RU army show case in 2000s

1427

“what is that in your pocket”

“uhm totally not a missile seeker”

“well then have a nice day”

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not even stealing it but easy to gather information, just makes sense to bring fakes

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yeah, my initial point was that the first photo with the seeker looks very real in my opinion, the cables and everything, but of course we don’t know

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Wombo Combo that and the BMP-2M.

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