this whole thread is a nothingburger
i dont see why we should take it to the dms when we arent off-topic as well
if youve only made like a handful of them you just use them for whatever
mockups to show a potential weapon system still need to look realistic to push investment
and how can you tell that its totally legit from some low-fi photgraphs. We cant prove or disprove from only photos unless its very blatant.
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Its just going in circles though
might have something to do with nobody finding any evidence that KH-38MT existed as anything more than an expo mockup
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want to repeat the whole discussion again dont you?
just point him 100 mesages up and tell him to read the whole thing again
It might be more sophisticated than a wooden or plastic one but it still ultimately falls under the definition of a mockup.
As others have already mentioned this is done to produce something more tangible for investors which is espcially the case for an Export product inorder to encourage orders.
find some actual concrete proof that it was ever mounted and tested on an aircraft, then have a conversation
rn you are talking about capacitors and pcbs
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you mean this whole 1250 reply thread where there hasnt been any evidence that wasnt in the initial post other than a single photo from an expo that shows what might be a prototype seeker inside of a mockup missile?
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every single one of us talking in this thread is quite literally clutching at straws due to the severe lack of information on this pretty likley to be fake or extremley low preduction missile.
the lack of information limits the ability to prove or debunk its actual existence and therefore things will loop until one of you gives up or starts insulting the other to which a forum janny will purge the thread
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would be for the better tbh, i think the entire discussion has been over for like 500 posts already
The kh-38MT is real, I have it in my attic
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This is ultimately what is needed for the MT to with reason stay in its current state.
Otherwise the options are:
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Nerf its tracking on moving targets (like the hammer) as the brochure suggests that this was its intended usecase
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Just remove it, most weaponry (note not vehicles) meet the threshold of testing which so far cannot be said for sure for the MT.
banger of a first post on the forum ngl
welcome to the braincell killer of a website that is the WT forums
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Facts.
Someone says: “But this (insert brochure or website) says it’s real!”
Then everyone else says: “something that has been 500 times already”
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inert pieces are technically mockups, plus theres no proof it is even functional
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the thing is a very sophisticated model of seeker is made (most likely a working one), then why should it stay as a mockup when half of the work is done.
russia doesnt tell much about its modern stuff, like izdeliye 180, 810 and su57 itself.
i am not saying kh38 exist, and i am putting this in a very vague way, its most likely more than a mockup. chances are that this is still in devlopment or its just not meant for export anymore due to technology. other thing could be the limited production (hence limited) use of these IIR fnf missile when you there are laser missiles and man in loop missiles like kh59 doing the similar jobs.
and due to its relevance to su57, its info is likely hidden.
in that photo there is a seeker head component connected to a board. we just cant tell anything else.
that board looks about as populated as the pcb on my donor boards when i used to mod gameboys howeber
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There has been bad faith arguments from both side which at times has just devolved into insults (as one would expect in this kind of thread)