The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

Kh-38ME is not and refers to the family of missiles

maybe thats because it doesnt exist…

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the one image with what looks like a functional IIR seeker says ME

all the mockups with a IIR looking seeker has ME

you will be waiting a long time

in usage Kh-38ME has been used to refer to all variants in all sources that use it when referring to a specific seeker type they all add an additional letter to indicate which

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id still believe ME is for the IIR, as all of ME protos hint towards the IIR seeker

do you have evidence of this to quell this disagreement?

usually, mockups do not have real systems inside.

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seeker looks more than a mockup to me

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oh lemme show you something

Unless I’m blind, I did not find anything like that. Feel free to send it in PM’s

If you mean this, which was posted already on the thread (as already pointed out by Devil09), it’s most likely a laser guided one

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@noister

this is a mockup lol

theyre very good at their job

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):<

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apples to oranges

my point is, it may look real, but mockup missiles do not carry real equipment.

that seeker is far from a mockup.
yes it may not have a booster or a warhead, but surely a seeker

again, why take a seeker, which may be contemporary/classified and put it in a mockup missile which is made of plastics and non military-grade metals?

its also much cheaper to have a mockup on display instead of a real prototype

especaly if the system is still undergoing testing and there isnt a surplus

its much simpler to just get a mockup made close to the expo and it doesnt limit ongoing development

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i dont think that they are doing a 1:1 replica of a seeker with a glas lense tho
and there is a few more things that wouldnt be neccessary for a mockup:

  • the wiring
  • the gyroscope
  • the pcb + components mouted to it
  • the markings on the ball baring to indicate its direction

so either they had a guy waste 69420 hours of his life to make a 1:1 replica or mote likely it is a real seeker

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i would rather take a seeker from kh29 and somehow fit it in kh38 if it were a mockup rather than making a nearly fully workable seeker. however in this case it doesnt seem it is a kh29 seeker.

4 photos of mock-ups, and then 4 photos that have been peer-reviewed as the unrelated ML model, with maybe 3 photos of the supposed IR seeker head which was likely a one-off prototype or something along those lines.

I’m going to do my best to not argue, i’m just gonna reference what i’ve already seen in this thread.