Btw yeah those are fake but the process behind what I told still remains, it makes sense to grind for the J-11A (even if it’s bad and you won’t even spade it) since what’s to come after it should in theory be much better.
(Thank you for pointing out that the leaks were fake)
Is that the Migs over exaggerated performance, while giving pilots a false sense of security, just never held up in combat
The Russian Airforce don’t use any MiG aircraft as their main stay air superiority aircraft, they’d be relying on their SU-35s rather than the much older MiG-29s. The Abrams which was overhyped was proven to be absolutely dog in a drone infested environment and the same may apply for the F-16AMs being delivered.
And I’m not quite sure how this is even related to the J-11A whatsoever, would you like to elaborate?
Alright guys, how about we go back the topic and not edge moders with political stuff for [insert funny number] time?
Although, tbh, nothing can be added beyond original statement of J-11A is the worst top tier jet as of now. Lets hope Gaijin follow with J-11B soon enough… or with ROCAF Mirage 2K (and speaking of ROCAF, shouldn’t their F-16A MLU come with Fox-3 as well?)
The issue is always compression. We need 14.0 so the J-11A can stay at 13.7 and all the good Fox-3 slingers go to 14.0. That also solves a ton of problems, leave bad planes where they are and boost everyone by .3.
Just move it down to 13.3, the Fox 3 missiles the J-11A have function as Fox 1s (until pitbull) because it retains the old N001 radar with a single data link channel. This basically removes the biggest advantage Fox 3 missiles are meant to have, in my opinion the current J-11A is somewhat equal to the MiG-29SMT.
It also has the god awful SPO-15LM which is absolutely useless at this battle rating, you can’t discriminate what aircraft is lighting you up and what specific direction.
Thing is decompression benefits everyone. Also why move it to 13.3 when it is a straight upgrade over the regular J-11. Don’t say move regular J-11 to 13.0. The zombers would struggle against any actual ER slinger.
Fact the F16 is 76 - 1 in aerial combat. 2100+ in service in multiple 3rd world countries. By your logic the F16s should have more losses. They don’t because Migs are over hyped junk in reality
The USA unlike the Soviets provided extensive training and maintenance for aircraft they sell, this will affect the overall performance of a aircraft in the field of war. The MiG-21 and F-16 are also decades apart, most of the kills the F-16 have are against obsolete fighters.
The fact remains, the Mig-21 didn’t score the kill, except for his friendly fire kill
I’ve provided pretty compelling images and a good argument, just skip over it should we?
The J-11A should have its R27-ERs removed. It has the wrong radar/year to use them. It wasn’t outfitted with the R27-ER until its upgrade to the N001VE. I made a report showing this
It’s a fact that the J-11A used the N001VE, the inaccuracy is the radar rather than the missile itself. They’re just playing ignorant and labelling all secondary sources as "untrustworthy".
@Malekitth
More like F-15C MSIP II needs to be put to 14.0 as the sole 14.0 in the game until Typhoon and Rafale are added, along with further equivalent aircraft.
I see Doc’s posts are spreading misinfo about aircraft again, derailing the topic.
In my opinion, F-15C MSIP II with AN/APG-63(V)1 radar in early 2000’s can’t counter Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 1 standard
I doubt gajin decompressing max BR to 14.0 for aircraft top tier in Q1 2025
Gajin might ready 5th gen IR AAM on fighter aircraft 14.0 BR and higher
Typhoon Tranche 1/2 uses a similarly powerful radar, and has access to an identical weapon load.
Did you not read my post… I said the F22A and EF-T1 should come together in game…
I said the F15C is fine where its at and should not be moved. It competes against the R27-ER and R73s as it is. Unless they plan to give it the Aim-120C-7, Aim-120D, and Aim9X it carries.
All of his missiles were recovered. No F16 parts were recovered. So he clearly didn’t shoot down the F16, the only confirmed kill he had was friendly fire.
EF Typhoon T1 should only be brought into game with the F22A
Absolutely not, they’re an entire different generation apart and comparing one to another is silly. The Eurofighter and F-22 are NOT equivalents.
All of his missiles were recovered. No F16 parts were recovered. So he clearly didn’t shoot down the F16, the only confirmed kill he had was friendly fire
I connected a fragment of a Pakistani F-16 in my post, you clearly either didn’t see it or ignored it.
Typhoon is not and has never been a stealth aircraft.
Typhoon is and always has been F-15C MSIP II equivalent in everything other than dogfight.
What the heck am i reading, also crazy off topic.
This is a No and will always be a No. The reason is the same that is given when people ask for WW2 tanks to not fight certain “cold war” or a lil further in time vehicles that would do absolutely NOTHING if brought up in BR if things remain this way in terms of gameplay. It is a matter of balance, not historical accuracy.
F22A + EF-T1 + J15 + SU-33 is entirely balanced
You did not just put the F-22 and the SU-33 in the same god damn sentence, you’ve invalidated the authenticity of everything said prior with this statement. The J-15 is FAR superior to the SU-33 let alone the F-22 and Eurofighter.
We need to let aircraft fight aircraft they were up against IRL
Vehicles like the SU-25 would be absolute garbage against a F-15 for example, historical battle rating would ruin the game as we know it.
Please keep going with the discussion privately, it is off topic.
Lmao at pitting J-15 vs F-22
I don’t even know why people still feed this lunatic
He’s clearly a completely debased US main
This is complete rubbish. The AIM-120A is better than R-27ER (overall not kinematics).
In what way is it overperforming?
F4s have 290 kills on early mig 21s and Mig15/17s, is that really a fair fight or is it just supersonic jets with radar BVR capability AIM9/AIM7 bullying subsonic dogfighters with 23mm/30mm?