The issue isn't APHE, but crew health skill

If you read between the lines, complaints about AP boil down to one thing, that the damage is not consistent, “yellow gunners” etc etc. People are moderately skilled enough to aim for what they want, hence the yellow damage, but are let down by the damage; The issues that people talk about, aren’t the actual issues of AP shells, such as the lack of AoE damage, e.g. shooting at the cupola to nuke the tank whereas AP shells won’t do much.

If you spent some minutes shooting the target tanks at the test drive, you will notice that the AP shells are perfectly fine; you don’t really need to aim direct hits, the spalling is wide and powerful enough to cripple targets that are indirectly involved.

An example of 3BM8 being shot in the driver hatch of IS-2, killing all crews. In practice, this will only kill the loader and driver.

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I believe the actual issue is the crew health skill.

They are solely responsible for the “low AP damage” phenomenon that we can see in APCR, APDS and HEAT. If AP shells performed as in the test drive (no crew health skill modifier), then no one would complain at all.

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It is definitely a factor, one that has no business being in anything other than AB. But it would be much easier to just make the postpen of those rounds stronger than it would be to change the crew skill function, I’d imagine.

yeah full bore 17pdr AP works great on Panzer IIs 🙄

not to be silly there are other tanks in that mode than PZII

another tiger tank 1 post missing the actual issue by half a solar system.

crew health is too high. they survive 7.62 bullets to the skull. but this isnt that big of a deal as how often is it just one stray bullet? its almost always a full bore shell going for the m18 commanders face.

APHE IS the problem, it ignores physics in how a shell detonates while in motion, is instead pretending to be a very large grenade in a static explosion with current simulation.

Is also generating significantly too much spall fragmentation and overpressure compared to what it really would.

come back after facing a team of 35mm oerlikan spammers in a heavy tank

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Gaijin has officially admitted APHE is massively overperforming.

The community, pushed by CCs, voted against it, so that players could keep their OP shells

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Still the worst thing Gaijin has ever done to the game. We could’ve had normal APHE shells instead of the nukes we still have today

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Give my crew juggernaut vests.

Sorry, you can have T1000 as your tank crew and autocannon APHE dakkadakka will have him looking like:

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