Well the beutepanzer get way better APHE well Pen 3mm more but gets 120 grams of TNT instead of the garbage 16.5 of the Mark V
Yeah, i really dont care about the whole argument. Just wanted to fix your wrong designation.
Also it has a bit less armor. And its not a direct C&P since it recived German 57mm Maxim Nordenfeld with german ammo.
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Well, actually, this is very strange. Why? Because they use the same gun. Either the Germans were using different shells for it—their own—or this is clearly a bug. The German Mark IV is a direct capture from the British; either the British used a different type of ammunition, or there’s an error here, given that the primary armament of the Mark V and the Mark IV is identical.
Germans changed the brittish canons to maxim canons soo they use german ammo
Ah, well, that’s fair enough then. It’s clear that Gaijin changed the names so that no one could claim they’re just clones. Still, it’s strange—why didn’t Britain get the Mark IV alongside the Mark V? You have to admit there’s a certain imbalance here; there’s no point in denying the obvious. A Mark IV in German service—even with a German gun—is still a captured vehicle, much like the Garford. Ultimately, Germany ended up with three tanks, compared to just one for everyone else. That’s why my proposal to address this discrepancy is perfectly valid. If Germany can have a Mark IV (with a German gun) while Britain has a Mark V, then there’s no reason why Britain couldn’t also have the Mark IV to go along with its Mark V. That’s point one. Point two: having the Mark V in the British tree actually makes it easier to introduce the same vehicle for the USSR, France, and the USA—which I mentioned earlier. This would create a much fairer balance: the USSR, France, and Britain would each have two tanks, compared to Germany’s three, and the USA would also get a WWI-era tank. I don’t see any reason why this shouldn’t be done. I’ll just need to edit my post slightly to include the Mark IV for Britain.
Anyway, here’s the questionnaire. I can tweak it a bit now and add the Mark IV for Britain.
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Would’ve been such an simple solution to just give camouflages for players who already owned the vehicles…
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Guys, please stick to the Great War Event topic.
Thank you,
Anyway why didn’t got added that turreted french tank I think It was called FT
Btw imagine get the Char 2 C as a 1500-2000SP on the triple Ent
I think it would still be bullied by A7V and 76mm he shells to its thin belly.
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I still want plain camos so I can fully customize my tank. That’s my main problem with the A7V right now. I’m unable to make a good look Mephisto design because of the current decals that already flood it. We should 100% get plain camos for better customization for our WW1 tanks.
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I actually would like to see the Mark IV added for GB with its original guns.
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In the WT Wiki the Spad XIII is in the British TT. WTF?
And we have the unknown variant of the Fokker D.VII with a climb rate of 3.9 m/s vs Spad-s 7.1 m/s.
The Fokker’s engine is mentioned as a IIIa with 180 hp . What IIIa - Mercedes or BMW? 180 hp is closer to BMW IIIa - so it’s the strongest one mounted on a Fokker D.VII. The climb rate with this engine should be over 9 m/s.
From Wikipedia:
Spad XIII :
Specifications (SPAD S.XIII)
Data from French Aircraft of the First World War[44]
General characteristics
- Crew: 1
- Length: 6.25 m (20 ft 6 in)
- Wingspan: 8.25 m (27 ft 1 in) late examples had a span of 8.08 m (26.5 ft)
- Height: 2.60 m (8 ft 6 in)
- Wing area: 21.11 m2 (227.2 sq ft) late examples had a wing area of 20.2 m2 (217 sq ft)
- Empty weight: 601.5 kg (1,326 lb)
- Gross weight: 856.5 kg (1,888 lb)
- Powerplant: 1 × Hispano-Suiza 8Ba, Bb or Bd Water cooled 8-cylinder vee-type, 150 kW (200 hp)
- Propellers: 2-bladed
Performance
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Maximum speed: 211 km/h (131 mph, 114 kn) at 1,000 m (3,300 ft)
- 208.5 km/h (129.6 mph; 112.6 kn) at 2,000 m (6,600 ft)
- 205.5 km/h (127.7 mph; 111.0 kn) at 3,000 m (9,800 ft)
- 201 km/h (125 mph; 109 kn) at 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
- 190 km/h (120 mph; 100 kn) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
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Endurance: 2 hours
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Service ceiling: 6,800 m (22,300 ft)
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Time to altitude:
- 2 minutes 20 seconds to 1,000 m (3,300 ft)
- 5 minutes 17 seconds to 2,000 m (6,600 ft)
- 8 minutes 45 seconds to 3,000 m (9,800 ft)
- 13 minutes 5 seconds to 4,000 m (13,000 ft)
- 20 minutes 10 seconds to 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
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Wing loading: 40 kg/m2 (8.2 lb/sq ft)
Armament
- Guns: 2 × .303 in (7.70 mm) Vickers machine guns or on USAS Examples, 2 × Marlin M1917 or M1918 machine guns
- Bombs: 4 × 25 lb (11 kg) Cooper bombs
Fokker D.VII :
Specifications (D.VII with Mercedes D.III engine)
Data from [24]
General characteristics
- Crew: 1
- Length: 6.954 m (22 ft 10 in)
- Wingspan: 8.9 m (29 ft 2 in)
- Height: 2.75 m (9 ft 0 in)
- Wing area: 20.5 m2 (221 sq ft)
- Empty weight: 670 kg (1,477 lb)
- Gross weight: 906 kg (1,997 lb)
- Powerplant: 1 × Mercedes D.III 6-cyl. water-cooled in-line piston engine, 120 kW (160 hp) ::::or 1 × 130 kW (170 hp) Mercedes D.IIIa 6-cyl. water-cooled in-line piston engine
or 1 × 138 kW (185 hp) BMW IIIa 6-cyl. water-cooled in-line piston engine, 175 kW (235 hp) (85 octane fuel, rating at low level, emergency only, risk of engine damage.)
- Propellers: 2-bladed fixed-pitch propeller
Performance
- Maximum speed: 189 km/h (117 mph, 102 kn) ::::with BMW IIIa engine – 200 km/h (120 mph; 110 kn)
- Range: 266 km (165 mi, 144 nmi)
- Service ceiling: 6,000 m (20,000 ft) [25]
- Rate of climb: 3.92 m/s (772 ft/min) ::::with BMW IIIa engine – 9.52 metres per second (1,874 ft/min)
- Time to altitude: [26]
1,000 m (3,300 ft) in 4 minutes 15 seconds (1 minutes 40 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
2,000 m (6,600 ft) in 8 minutes 18 seconds (4 minutes 5 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
3,000 m (9,800 ft) in 13 minutes 49 seconds (7 minutes 0 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
4,000 m (13,000 ft) in 22 minutes 48 seconds (10 minutes 15 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
5,000 m (16,000 ft) in 38 minutes 5 seconds (14 minutes 0 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
6,000 m (20,000 ft) (18 minutes 45 seconds w/ BMW IIIa)
- Wing loading: 43.0 kg/m2 (8.8 lb/sq ft)
Armament
- Guns: 2 × 7.92 mm (0.312 in) LMG 08/15 “Spandau” machine guns
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Bro they BETTER not do this! This would be like a top 10 gaijin worst decision ever!
It’s possible that info on wiki is not updated due to the fact, that SPAD is not yet available in game (tech tree version, the one you will use in random battles).
We are only on task 4, so it’s not possible to use Spad in battles outside Great War event.
SPAD S.XIII will be placed in French Air Tech Tree.
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Good. Still mad that I have to play the entire event just to get the planes tho. They should’ve been available in the trophy box thing like the H.P. 12
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Will the Fokker and SPAD be receiving their more accurate FM already found in Aces of Thunder before the event is over? Currently they underperform massively.
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They not the same tank! Specially now that gaijin applied some corrections to the Mark V and Mark IV! There are some pretty big differences between them, it’s not just “the Mark V has a better engine”. The first big difference being armor!
The Mark V:
Frontal armor: 16mm
Side armor: 12 + 12mm = 24mm
Rear armor: 12mm
Roof armor: 8mm
Internal armor: 12mm
The Mark IV:
Frontal armor: 12.5mm
Side armor: 9.5 + 9.5mm = 19mm
Rear armor: 8mm
Roof armor: 6mm
Internal armor: 8mm
The Mark V has a vertical stabilizer;
The German Mark IV doesn’t;
The Guns on the German Mark IV have APHE rounds with more explosive filler, and better penetration;
The Guns on the Mark V reload faster;
The Mark V has a “lookout cabin” towards the rear of the tank;
The German Mark IV doesn’t;
The mark V has side ventilation openings towards the rear
The German Mark IV doesn’t
The Tracks on The Mark V are noticeably larger than the Tracks on the German Mark IV
The differences between them are easy to spot, with the German Mark IV being more vulnerable due to the weaker armor, so it’s not just the Mark V has a better engine, they’re 2 distinct tanks.
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