By “everyone” you mean is7 coupon holders (whole, like, 10 people)?
Sl crates did not collapse marketplace, I dont see how event reruns will
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If there was easier access to these vehicles I doubt people would miss the marketplace prices. Keep in mind these, and anything else in game for that matter, are not limited goods and can be infinitely recreated without taking away anything from any player.
While “players can sell things and buy premium stuff for free”, that doesn’t actually apply when looking at the playerbase as a whole, since not only is every GJN still paid by someone, each transaction also cuts a percentage of them. It’s not actually free, it’s more expensive, just paid by someone else.
Returning event vehicles, purely from a player perspective, is a net positive.
That said Gaijin as a company still want to make the most profit here. For them to keep making comparable profits these would still need a price tag that makes sure the added number of sales is high enough to create a profit compared to the previous lower numbers at higher prices.
For example an event that costs ~50€ to complete when buying stages, bought by ten times the people that would buy that same vehicle for 400€ on the marketplace might be equivalent, but it’s not worth their effort. Doing the same for a 200€ vehicle though could easily be worth it.
The same goes for vehicles with depleting supply, which lowers long-term profits off that vehicle and incentivizes bringing it back.
Vehicles that are entirely unavailable though, like these WWI vehicles, make a profit no matter what, since no potential sales are risked in the decision to bring them back.
I think there is one great suggestion for a system that does this quite well, since it raises the potential ceiling for how they can price the stages of their events in a way that I believe could actually result in a long-term profit for Gaijin, by making the return event more time consuming rather than time limited. Give it a read if you want.
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In the upcoming WW1 event Gaijin is adding this WW1 German Empire tanker badge decal. While I think it’s cool, I personally think it shouldn’t be a decal. If I’m going to be 100% honest I have never seen anyone put medal decals on their tank and I personally don’t do that either. I personally think instead of a decal they should give us an actual medal.
The Decal:
In WT, there are medals that you can unlock on your account by completing certain task. Right now all of Germanys are WW2 era, changing this medal from a decal to a medal would give us something new, add a WW1 medal to Germanys medals, and finally it’s just more interesting. Most people won’t know if you have the WW1 German tanker decal unless you put it on your tank, which won’t really look that good, but as a medal this will be on your account alongside all your other medals and you can also put it under your personal profile using the Medalist format. This would work much better to let other players know that you were in the second Great War event than the decal and also I personally think the ideas of Event Medals is cool!
Medal Tab for Germany:
Now I doubt gaijin will make this change and we will happen to get to dumb decal that most likely no one will use (and if you’re saying you would, don’t lie, you know you’re not gonna use it.), but thank you for reading anyways!
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I’m definitely going to try to get the Fokker D.VII. Such an awesome WW1 plane, flown it a lot in RoF, WoFF and IL-2 Flying Circus
I’m back.
The tests are all done at 3000m unless otherwise specified, because that’s about the correct height for early bombers to fly at and it’s one of the settings for test flight :)))); max speed is tested in realistic with bomb load and stable altitude with 100% throttle (WEP makes planes exceed their indicated max speed and is unsustainable).
The examples provided are picked amongst both the best bombloads at the br and also the slowest bombers currently available in game. The heaviest bombload is chosen, unless the second heaviest is only marginally lighter and has much lower drag.
As the Zeppelin has a recessed bomb bay, its airworthiness does not depend on speed and the external rigid shell never changes shape no matter how full the gasbags are, I’ll assume that its bombload will not significantly impact its speed.
TB-3M (1.3) with 4x250 and 4x500 can cruise at 168kph.
Po-2 with 2x100 and 2x50 can cruise at 127kph at 1000m (ceiling 1500m).
MBR-2 with 2x250 can cruise at 221kph.
H.P.12 with 1650lb can cruise at 122kph.
S.81 (1.3) with 4x500 can cruise at 267kph.
B5N2 with 800kg can cruise at 321kph.
Finally, the Zeppelin with 14x300 can cruise at 109kph (theoretical).
To figure out how much explosives those planes can ferry, I’ll simply multiply their load by their speed.
TB-3M: 508k
Po-2: 38.1k
MBR-2: 110.5k
H.P.12: 91.3k
S.81: 534k
B5N2: 256.8k
Zeppelin: 457.8k
Therefore, the Zeppelin has a lower thoughput than the TB-3M and the S.81, both of which sit at 1.3, while beating the H.P.12 by a factor of 5 and the Po-2 by a factor of 12.
Of course, this test would assume that all bombers just reload and teleport back to above the airfield as soon as their bombs land, and most of those bombers would need to RTB after bombing a single base (with the exception of the S.81 and TB-3M, that can bomb up to 7 and 6 with their most efficient bombload, while the Zeppelin can destroy up to 7 or 14 depending on how effective the 300kg bomb is). This means that faster bombers with small bombloads would have an unfair advantage in this experiment because we’re ignoring the time needed for the return trip, landing, reloading and take off, as well as the loss in speed they’d suffer while climbing again.
Also keep in mind that the max historical bombload of the Zeppelin is actually 7600kg, bringing its max throughput at 828.4k, higher than any other aircraft in this list, if Gaijin were to give it different loadouts.
In conclusion, I think that the Zeppelin is actually a viable addition to the game, especially because it’s only slightly slower than the already in-game Po-2 (18kph less) while having more than twice the altitude ceiling, 12 times the throughput and way better climbrate, making it an arguably superior alternative to the latter. Similar situation with the H.P.12, only 13kph faster than the Zeppelin while having a fifth of the bomb throughput and a significantly worse rate of climb.
I hope to have been thorough enough in my little experiment, let me know if I’ve missed something.
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Why do you think the stages cost money?
This bs is literally what gaijin is built upon.
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Yes. Exactly. You understand quickly. There is no way pixels on a screen is worth 2000$. Literally if they reset it, gaijin can make a ton of profit and everyone has a chance to get their hands on past event vehicles. There will always be more rare vehicles to add into the game. Eventually the prices will go high again, everyone is happy.
It’s fun when you don’t have to race the clock.
It’s 10k score DAILY, miss two and those new vehicles are lost.
It’s not fun to “tryhard” I want to obtain my new vehicles and then play at my OWN pace with my own experimentation and goofing, maybe I’ll try to a new route, maybe I’ll try to climb as much as I can with the zeppelin, maybe I can explore the actual map in a plane or try to get a close look at AI soldiers.
And after the event I can undust those planes and take them to ARB, where I don’t have to worry about clubing too hard.
Do you see now? It’s not worth the money and it will not be worth the time.
I literally say this because I have a job and uni now, im no longer a 17 yo dumbass with a piles of times to spare unlike before.
So I literally complain because I want to touch grass and have a chance to recieve the new vehicles.
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Could we see some more WW1 Naval vessels that aren’t battleships or battle cruisers? So far the only destroyers I know of are the HMS Valhalla, Kerch and RN Aquila, and the only light cruiser is the SMS Elbing. I might be missing a few British heavy cruisers, but more light cruisers and destroyers would be cool.
Most of us have careers and family and other things on our plate. You’re not special. If you need to miss the event, just do it next time they bring it back.
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I know im not special, that’s why a lot of other people also agree the redoing / rebuying the event for 2 vehicles that can only be used to play around instead of helping with future events/help to sink less absurd amount time into this game isn’t the best play, not even for future reruns because one would need to do it again.
It’s not even a good model for gaijin, because money is better spent somewhere else in-game
I’ve mentioned this before in the thread, but yeah, it’s just a terrible vehicle all around
The only reason it kind of worked in the event mode was that the planes sucked at destroying it, but as soon as there was a Garford or Chamond ready to fire at the zeppelin, the zeppelin was cooked
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zeppelin had one nasty issue of gunner convergence too, planes could still dunk on it since it could only touch you within a certain “ring”, they were even more vulnerable if enemies aimed at the pilot in the unarmored and exposed gondola
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THIS. For people who are missing, say, 3 vehicles from the last event, they have a 1 in 4 chance of getting the new vehicle on the first star. If someone has none of the vehicles, it’s 1 in 7, and for someone with all of them, it’s guaranteed on the first star. Seems more than logical to me and would keep people incentivized to play later into the event. Plus, that would more closely justify a 999 GE price tag for each star than what we have now. The way they have it now is just insulting.
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Well, 5000 points but in WWI mode.
If a tank kill give you 25 points…
I remember the grind was painfull and boring.
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if we math this out and we assume the stars are worth 999 each
for 1 plane you need 6993 if you pay for the seven stars, for both planes and all 14 stars it is 13986.
The h-75M from winter concert event was worth 3996 and 4995 if we include the skin.
I feel like the gunner convergence may have been limited one purpose
no it just comes with all aircraft, you can see it on the P.108 or BV-238, just that zeppelin is you know, the size of an ocean liner so the effect is really felt.
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Ah, my bad, I was thinking of the coverage in general
Yes, the convergence when there are multiple gunners firing from different turrets is atrocious, there shouldn’t really be a forced convergence point to begin with, but sadly Gaijin doesn’t seem to care about improving turret handling
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